Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?
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@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Newt, as usual, nails it.
I think he's right. I'm astonished the Republicans - well, that small faction - could be that stupid.
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.
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@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.
Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.
But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.
Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.
He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.
One of the rumors is that Gaetz wanted McCarthy out because of those investigations. In fact, McCarthy said so last night, while pointing out that those investigations started before he was Speaker.
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Pence weighs in, and i think he nails it too. This is very bad for the GOP leading into primary season.
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The drumbeat of GOP failure and disorganization continues.
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Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
The Brad
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Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
@LuFins-Dad said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.
That is quite possible.
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The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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What was the point of this snippy little action? Good, lord, the GOP needs to stay clear away from this stuff. Now you can say this is a punishment for backing the McCarthy ouster, but why would the Dems not want to help the GOP shoot itself in the foot?
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@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.
Go ahead, piss 'em off.
Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years
With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.
Then write them off.
Enjoy!
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.
I think I'd prefer Jordan.
Jordan is a firebrand. Won't work.
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@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
@Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.
I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.
I saw him walking and (barely) talking down a hallway today. He looked frail and dyspneic. Granted, it could be the chemo for his myeloma, but he didn't look too robust.
