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  • George KG George K

    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

    Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

    But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

    Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

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    @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

    Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

    But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

    Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

    He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

      Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

      But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

      Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

      He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.

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      George K
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      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.

      One of the rumors is that Gaetz wanted McCarthy out because of those investigations. In fact, McCarthy said so last night, while pointing out that those investigations started before he was Speaker.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mccarthy-s-defeat-is-a-victory-for-despotism/ar-AA1hGLTz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=332f76ddf00b44219b84ee863b69d159&ei=28

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Pence weighs in, and i think he nails it too. This is very bad for the GOP leading into primary season.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-reacts-to-mccarthy-s-ouster-as-speaker-of-the-house/vi-AA1hEeBb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4de16432b48e4e568ea4dac7260ba7b5&ei=32

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              The drumbeat of GOP failure and disorganization continues.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-average-american-sees-this-and-says-way-to-go-republicans-mike-huckabee/vi-AA1hERLq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4de16432b48e4e568ea4dac7260ba7b5&ei=61

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.

                The Brad

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                  Maybe elect an Independent to be the next Speaker, with votes from both major parties.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.

                    That is quite possible.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Jim Jordan says he’s interested in going for it.

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                        Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

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                          The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                          Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                          Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

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                            @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                            Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

                            I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.

                              I think I'd prefer Jordan.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                                Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                                Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

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                                @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                                Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                                Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

                                With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  #77

                                  What was the point of this snippy little action? Good, lord, the GOP needs to stay clear away from this stuff. Now you can say this is a punishment for backing the McCarthy ouster, but why would the Dems not want to help the GOP shoot itself in the foot?

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-evicted-from-hideaway-offices-after-kevin-mccarthy-s-ouster/ar-AA1hHdrN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c295ea8d14d247cf9c4dea36f6322e89&ei=25

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                                    Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                                    Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

                                    With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

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                                    @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                                    Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                                    Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

                                    With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

                                    Then write them off.

                                    Enjoy!

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.

                                      I think I'd prefer Jordan.

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                                      @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                      Yeah, I have a hard time with that too. While I respect him a lot, the illness going to get in the way.

                                      I think I'd prefer Jordan.

                                      Jordan is a firebrand. Won't work.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

                                        I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.

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                                        @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

                                        I'm a bit surprised. Steve has cancer.

                                        I saw him walking and (barely) talking down a hallway today. He looked frail and dyspneic. Granted, it could be the chemo for his myeloma, but he didn't look too robust.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                                          Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                                          Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

                                          With all due respect, the more extreme third of the party just went a long way toward assuring that very result.

                                          Then write them off.

                                          Enjoy!

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          Then write them off.

                                          Enjoy!

                                          Have the MAGA folks shown any inclination whatsoever to compromise?

                                          Why should the 70% kowtow to the 30%?

                                          I was only joking

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