American Response to the Pandemic
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@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 18:59 last edited by Jolly@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
If they aren't identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....
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@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
If they aren't identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....
wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 19:02 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
If they identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....
You can catch Covid 19 off somebody who is asymptomatic, has had no reason to be tested, and hasn't been identified. That's one of the reasons it spread so quickly.
There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.
My town currently has had two confirmed cases in the last week. You think that's how many people caught it in the last week?
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@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
If they identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....
You can catch Covid 19 off somebody who is asymptomatic, has had no reason to be tested, and hasn't been identified. That's one of the reasons it spread so quickly.
There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.
My town currently has had two confirmed cases in the last week. You think that's how many people caught it in the last week?
wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 20:15 last edited by Copper@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.
Tell that to New Zealand
And what is the goal?
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wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 21:21 last edited by
My goal is to take reasonable precautions against getting sick, and to keep working.
Pretty simple, really.
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wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 21:48 last edited by
flu
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wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 22:54 last edited by Renauda
What is the goal? Make sure all the beans are counted and accounted then take a decision so that all the beans counted will be there to account for in future accounting. Seems like an accountable goal regardless of how unreasonable it is.
Not convinced there needs to be a goal other than not crater the health care system.
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 22:42 last edited by
Dr. Fauci at the ball game
Apparently it is real
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:05 last edited by
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
Dr. Fauci at the ball game
Apparently it is real
Yeah. Presumably the woman to his left is his wife, so she should be totally safe in terms of risk.
He said the guy to his right was "a close friend."
OK, "close friend," tell us about your potential exposure...
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:08 last edited by
I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?
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I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?
wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:36 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:
I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?
I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:38 last edited by
No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:
I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?
I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?
wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:39 last edited by@George-K said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:
I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?
I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?
He is. And it's weird that in that news story, Fauci seems to not practice what he preaches. That seems crappy. But I'm an advocate of masks in public. Those who aren't but still criticize Fauci sound like bigger hypocrites than Fauci does.
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:41 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:
No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.
Well, on that point, you're right....
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@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:
No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.
Well, on that point, you're right....
wrote on 25 Jul 2020, 00:03 last edited by@George-K said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:
No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.
Well, on that point, you're right....
Yeah, but crapping on him for every thing in the world gets old. And loses any effectiveness....Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!...Well, y'all get the drift...
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wrote on 25 Jul 2020, 00:59 last edited by
Wolf, my ass. I crap on him all the time because he’s a walking toilet.
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wrote on 26 Jul 2020, 02:28 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:
Wolf, my ass. I crap on him all the time because he’s a walking toilet.
Well, the toilet has a helluva lot more on the ball than the drooling racketeer the Dems are nominating, wouldn't you say?
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wrote on 26 Jul 2020, 02:45 last edited by
Definitely not.
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wrote on 26 Jul 2020, 03:55 last edited by
You mean you support a doddering old man for President? A temporary placeholder who will pack it in within the first twenty-four months?
The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government, used influence peddling to make his son rich on Chinese money and used the FBI to illegally spy on an opposing political candidate?
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You mean you support a doddering old man for President? A temporary placeholder who will pack it in within the first twenty-four months?
The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government, used influence peddling to make his son rich on Chinese money and used the FBI to illegally spy on an opposing political candidate?
wrote on 26 Jul 2020, 18:27 last edited by@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government....
That statement makes the Ukrainian government sound like a victim. It is not, despite the fact it likes to present itself as one.
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@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government....
That statement makes the Ukrainian government sound like a victim. It is not, despite the fact it likes to present itself as one.
wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 00:30 last edited by@Renauda said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government....
That statement makes the Ukrainian government sound like a victim. It is not, despite the fact it likes to present itself as one.
I really can't take seriously criticisms of Biden from the same groups that give Trump a pass. Framing Biden as a Deep State overlord while at the same time an addled fool is too much to ingest, doubly so when compared against the mountain of bullshit Trump's life has been about.
Backfire Effect in full illustration.