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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

    This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

    Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

    What is the good of society is debatable.

    Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

    It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

    Zero total identified cases.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    @Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

    important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

    This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

    Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

    What is the good of society is debatable.

    Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

    It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

    Zero total identified cases.

    If they aren't identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

      This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

      Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

      What is the good of society is debatable.

      Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

      It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

      Zero total identified cases.

      If they aren't identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....

      Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #22

      @Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      @Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

      important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

      This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

      Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

      What is the good of society is debatable.

      Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

      It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

      Zero total identified cases.

      If they identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....

      You can catch Covid 19 off somebody who is asymptomatic, has had no reason to be tested, and hasn't been identified. That's one of the reasons it spread so quickly.

      There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.

      My town currently has had two confirmed cases in the last week. You think that's how many people caught it in the last week?

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        @taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        @Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

        This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

        Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

        What is the good of society is debatable.

        Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

        It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

        Zero total identified cases.

        If they identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....

        You can catch Covid 19 off somebody who is asymptomatic, has had no reason to be tested, and hasn't been identified. That's one of the reasons it spread so quickly.

        There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.

        My town currently has had two confirmed cases in the last week. You think that's how many people caught it in the last week?

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        Copper
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        #23

        @Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

        There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.

        Tell that to New Zealand

        And what is the goal?

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #24

          My goal is to take reasonable precautions against getting sick, and to keep working.

          Pretty simple, really.

          I was only joking

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #25

            flu

            Please love yourself.

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              Renauda
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              #26

              What is the goal? Make sure all the beans are counted and accounted then take a decision so that all the beans counted will be there to account for in future accounting. Seems like an accountable goal regardless of how unreasonable it is.

              Not convinced there needs to be a goal other than not crater the health care system.

              Elbows up!

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                #27

                Dr. Fauci at the ball game

                Apparently it is real

                alt text

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                • CopperC Copper

                  Dr. Fauci at the ball game

                  Apparently it is real

                  alt text

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                  George K
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                  #28

                  @Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                  Dr. Fauci at the ball game

                  Apparently it is real

                  Yeah. Presumably the woman to his left is his wife, so she should be totally safe in terms of risk.

                  He said the guy to his right was "a close friend."

                  OK, "close friend," tell us about your potential exposure...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #29

                    I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                      I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

                      I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #31

                        No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • George KG George K

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                          I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

                          I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #32

                          @George-K said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                          I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

                          I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?

                          He is. And it's weird that in that news story, Fauci seems to not practice what he preaches. That seems crappy. But I'm an advocate of masks in public. Those who aren't but still criticize Fauci sound like bigger hypocrites than Fauci does.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.

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                            George K
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                            @jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                            No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.

                            Well, on that point, you're right....

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                              No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.

                              Well, on that point, you're right....

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              #34

                              @George-K said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                              @jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                              No, no. His assholery predates Covid by decades.

                              Well, on that point, you're right....

                              Yeah, but crapping on him for every thing in the world gets old. And loses any effectiveness....Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!...Well, y'all get the drift...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
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                                #35

                                Wolf, my ass. I crap on him all the time because he’s a walking toilet.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Wolf, my ass. I crap on him all the time because he’s a walking toilet.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                                  Wolf, my ass. I crap on him all the time because he’s a walking toilet.

                                  Well, the toilet has a helluva lot more on the ball than the drooling racketeer the Dems are nominating, wouldn't you say?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #37

                                    Definitely not.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      You mean you support a doddering old man for President? A temporary placeholder who will pack it in within the first twenty-four months?

                                      The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government, used influence peddling to make his son rich on Chinese money and used the FBI to illegally spy on an opposing political candidate?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        You mean you support a doddering old man for President? A temporary placeholder who will pack it in within the first twenty-four months?

                                        The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government, used influence peddling to make his son rich on Chinese money and used the FBI to illegally spy on an opposing political candidate?

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                                        Renauda
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                                        @Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                                        The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government....

                                        That statement makes the Ukrainian government sound like a victim. It is not, despite the fact it likes to present itself as one.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                                          The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government....

                                          That statement makes the Ukrainian government sound like a victim. It is not, despite the fact it likes to present itself as one.

                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                          @Renauda said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                                          @Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

                                          The same guy who illegally strong-armed the Ukrainian government....

                                          That statement makes the Ukrainian government sound like a victim. It is not, despite the fact it likes to present itself as one.

                                          I really can't take seriously criticisms of Biden from the same groups that give Trump a pass. Framing Biden as a Deep State overlord while at the same time an addled fool is too much to ingest, doubly so when compared against the mountain of bullshit Trump's life has been about.

                                          Backfire Effect in full illustration.

                                          Please love yourself.

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