American Response to the Pandemic

[Mik]

Some do. Most of them haven't the sense to come in out of the rain. They are very quick to call others sheep while they are simply parroting something someone else said.

As far as the federal response, I'm not sure what could have been done significantly better. Prior pandemic planning and preparation was obviously painfully inadequate if it can even be said to exist at all. There's not much of any way to be anything but reactive.

[Larry]

Excellent foreign country where Trump isn't president and he didn't screw up there vs bad old USA where Trump screws things up:

EFC (Excellent foreign country: tests 1,000 people, finds 20 people with the virus.
USA: tests 10,000 people, finds 200 people with the virus

Snot slinging Trump bashers too fucking stupid to figure this out and won't be swayed from their Trump bashing: Orange man bad! He s srewed up! (Baby crying sounds)

Trump isn't our problem. The stupid brigade is our problem.

[taiwan_girl]

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

[Copper]

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

[taiwan_girl]

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

[Copper]

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

It is going to start fights, it already has.

It will needlessly frighten a lot of people.

Of course there are a lot of very good reasons to advocate the mask. But it is not without problems, real problems, not just stupid lunkhead people.

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

Crawling in a hole and pulling the dirt back over your head is the absolute most effective means of dealing with the virus

That and, y'know, wearing a mask in public. Which 'Murricans equate to being forced to lay down in a ditch.

Some do. Thank God for it.

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:

Trump’s ‘plan’ is purely reactive and focused on minimizing blowback on him personally.

It might simply be an unfortunate truth that societies with active Magat infections can’t fight viral ones.

No one mentions that Fauci told us we had reason to believe Covid would die down in the summer. #becauseshutup

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

You're moving the goalposts from a generalization to a specific. And then, only 30% of a specific.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

Zero total identified cases.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

Zero total identified cases.

If they aren't identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:

@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:

important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.

This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".

Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.

What is the good of society is debatable.

Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.

It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.

Zero total identified cases.

If they identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....

You can catch Covid 19 off somebody who is asymptomatic, has had no reason to be tested, and hasn't been identified. That's one of the reasons it spread so quickly.

There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.

My town currently has had two confirmed cases in the last week. You think that's how many people caught it in the last week?

[Copper]

@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:

There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.

Tell that to New Zealand

And what is the goal?

[Doctor Phibes]

My goal is to take reasonable precautions against getting sick, and to keep working.

Pretty simple, really.

[Aqua Letifer]

flu

[Renauda]

What is the goal? Make sure all the beans are counted and accounted then take a decision so that all the beans counted will be there to account for in future accounting. Seems like an accountable goal regardless of how unreasonable it is.

Not convinced there needs to be a goal other than not crater the health care system.

[Copper]

Dr. Fauci at the ball game

Apparently it is real

[George K]

@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:

Dr. Fauci at the ball game

Apparently it is real

Yeah. Presumably the woman to his left is his wife, so she should be totally safe in terms of risk.

He said the guy to his right was "a close friend."

OK, "close friend," tell us about your potential exposure...

[Aqua Letifer]

I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:

I thought that we can't all be cooped up and need to get back to our lives? I thought staying at home was tyranny?

I thought Trump was an asshole for not wearing a mask?