American Response to the Pandemic
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First thing you do, is take those two rags and throw them in the dustbin. Second thing you do, is think. Think what America is, and how it works.
Think on the individual rights of Americans and the power of the State. Think on the mobility in America and how commerce flows in our capitalistic society. Think about how our medical supply chains function, where our supplies come from and who has priorities on those needed items. Think about the economy, how it has been affected by the pandemic and how to keep the country out of the Second Great Depression.
Now, think about what we knew about COVID-19 in January 2020 and what we know now. Think about treatment regimens, ventilators, PPE requirements and staffing issues. Think about number of available beds, as hospitals try to transition from a largely out-patient driven model of business to a model where in-patient beds are needed, often for extended stays.
It's very easy to criticize and Monday-morning quarterback the Chinese Flu response, but the dickheads down at the WaPo and the Times couldn't run the economy of a two-car funeral, couldn't take the vital signs of a patient, wouldn't walk in an ICU room of a carona patient with a gun in their ear and don't really have an idea on what the Constitution says about the power of the state's and the powers of the governors who run them. They don't have a clue about the restrictions of FDA clearances, CDC pandemic protocol or the in-fighting that occurs between Federal agencies in even the worst of times.
Lastly, I want you to think on media bias, slanted reporting, lack of fact checking and second sources. I want you to think on the difference between how the NYT and the WaPo have historically treated Orange Man Bad vs. The Magic Negro. And I also want you to think on what has historically sold newspapers or driven any form of news media.
The American response to the current pandemic has ranged from poor to excellent, depending upon where you are standing at an individual moment in time. Considering the nature of our society, the rules we are governed under and the outcomes upon society at large, the grades IMO range from D's to B's. I see very few superiors, but I also see very few failures. Overall, I'd grade things out as about a C+, bordering on a B-.
Lastly, if the shills down at the Shady Lady and the Compost don't like that, they can kiss my natural born rebel ass.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:
That's only half of it. The other half of the country is throwing individuality out the window, branding whites as racist nationalists due to their skin color. The more these two groups double down on their extremism, the more trouble we're in.
Yes it seems also to be the case that woke-infused moral panics are also incompatible with containing a virus.
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@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:
Trump’s ‘plan’ is purely reactive and focused on minimizing blowback on him personally.
It might simply be an unfortunate truth that societies with active Magat infections can’t fight viral ones.
Some of Trump's plan is reactionary. Some is personal, but some has to be reactionary, unless you somehow posess a crystal ball on carona knowledge - symptoms, mode of transmission, etc.
Much of Trump's response does revolve around not crippling the economy. Many of us have the luxury of not worrying where next month's rent is coming from, but there are an awful lot of people that do worry about mundane things like that.
Crawling in a hole and pulling the dirt back over your head is the absolute most effective means of dealing with the virus, but very few are capable of such isolation or would even welcome it.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
Crawling in a hole and pulling the dirt back over your head is the absolute most effective means of dealing with the virus
That and, y'know, wearing a mask in public. Which 'Murricans equate to being forced to lay down in a ditch.
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Some do. Most of them haven't the sense to come in out of the rain. They are very quick to call others sheep while they are simply parroting something someone else said.
As far as the federal response, I'm not sure what could have been done significantly better. Prior pandemic planning and preparation was obviously painfully inadequate if it can even be said to exist at all. There's not much of any way to be anything but reactive.
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Excellent foreign country where Trump isn't president and he didn't screw up there vs bad old USA where Trump screws things up:
EFC (Excellent foreign country: tests 1,000 people, finds 20 people with the virus.
USA: tests 10,000 people, finds 200 people with the virusSnot slinging Trump bashers too fucking stupid to figure this out and won't be swayed from their Trump bashing: Orange man bad! He s srewed up! (Baby crying sounds)
Trump isn't our problem. The stupid brigade is our problem.
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@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
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@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
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@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
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@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
It is going to start fights, it already has.
It will needlessly frighten a lot of people.
Of course there are a lot of very good reasons to advocate the mask. But it is not without problems, real problems, not just stupid lunkhead people.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
Crawling in a hole and pulling the dirt back over your head is the absolute most effective means of dealing with the virus
That and, y'know, wearing a mask in public. Which 'Murricans equate to being forced to lay down in a ditch.
Some do. Thank God for it.
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@jon-nyc said in American Response to the Pandemic:
Trump’s ‘plan’ is purely reactive and focused on minimizing blowback on him personally.
It might simply be an unfortunate truth that societies with active Magat infections can’t fight viral ones.
No one mentions that Fauci told us we had reason to believe Covid would die down in the summer. #becauseshutup
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@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
You're moving the goalposts from a generalization to a specific. And then, only 30% of a specific.
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@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
If they aren't identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
Warning: I post things that interest me. Read and comment at your own discretion. -
@Jolly said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Copper said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@taiwan_girl said in American Response to the Pandemic:
@Catseye3 said in American Response to the Pandemic:
important freedoms for all sometimes require slight adjustments by individuals. That’s not tyranny. That’s responsibility.
This is where I think that the US has "failed". Failed is probably not the correct word, it is not quite that bad - maybe "not done as well as we could have".
Sometimes the good of society has to come before what an individual thinks is best.
What is the good of society is debatable.
Agree, but in the case of virus, I don't think that anyone says that NOT wearing a mask will decrease the intensity of the virus.
It is required in Counties with zero total cases. It is impossible to decrease an intensity of zero.
Zero total identified cases.
If they identified, they don't exist. Falling tree in the forest, etc....
You can catch Covid 19 off somebody who is asymptomatic, has had no reason to be tested, and hasn't been identified. That's one of the reasons it spread so quickly.
There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.
My town currently has had two confirmed cases in the last week. You think that's how many people caught it in the last week?
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in American Response to the Pandemic:
There is no way to tell whether a county has zero infected people unless you test everybody.
Tell that to New Zealand
And what is the goal?
