Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6
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@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
You're good with the weaponization of the Justice Department? You're good with punitive sentences worthy of a Soviet kangaroo court? You hate people that much?
What I don't understand is that you think that somehow the hundreds (maybe thousands) of people involved with the case, including people appointed by Presidents Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, jury selected per US protocol, and not only in this case but the hundreds of others, that somehow.....
all these people involved conspired to find these people guilty and send them to jail. And yet you say that the majority of the people in the US support President Trump. (And therefore it would seem that they would also support what happened on Jan 6).
Yet, somehow these people involved are found guilty and sentenced to jail.
What is the English saying - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, well, it is probably a duck!!
wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 15:12 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
You're good with the weaponization of the Justice Department? You're good with punitive sentences worthy of a Soviet kangaroo court? You hate people that much?
What I don't understand is that you think that somehow the hundreds (maybe thousands) of people involved with the case, including people appointed by Presidents Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, jury selected per US protocol, and not only in this case but the hundreds of others, that somehow.....
all these people involved conspired to find these people guilty and send them to jail. And yet you say that the majority of the people in the US support President Trump. (And therefore it would seem that they would also support what happened on Jan 6).
Yet, somehow these people involved are found guilty and sentenced to jail.
What is the English saying - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, well, it is probably a duck!!
You may understand numbers, but I don't think you understand human nature and the culture of the Beltway. I've written extensively on why I think the arrests, incarcerations and sentences are far beyond what is normally experienced in the American judicial system.
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wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 15:48 last edited by
I am hoping to see a writeup someday of an apples to apples comparison of crimes and punishments for these charges, going back a few decades.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 18:04 last edited by
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wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 19:13 last edited by
Regardless of the ad hominems thrown at the judge, or whether they are misplaced, it will be nice to see a demonstration that the prosecution and sentence is in line with similar prosecutions and sentences through recent history.
If the sentence is out of line, that's an interesting thing regardless of whether the judge fits certain tribal characteristics. And even as far as the tribal characteristics in question go, membership in the federalist society and an appointment by the Trump administration is not dispositive of being a never-Trumper.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 22:44 last edited by
The Swamp has no party.
Do not challenge the power of The Swamp.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 22:45 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Jul 2023, 22:47
The constitution has no party. Do not plot to overthrow the constitution.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 23:45 last edited by
No, right now the Constitution most definitely has a party. You can tell by the smell of the donkey shit rubbed on it.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 01:40 last edited by
@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
The Swamp has no party.
What is the swamp. Everybody seems to refer to it, but nobody really knows or can tell me what it actually is.
Someone who has been in Washington DC for a number of years?
Someone who has been a politician for a number of years?
etc?I dont understand.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 02:56 last edited by Jolly 9 Aug 2023, 02:56
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 03:08 last edited by
Perhaps trump should rename his property Mar-a-Lago-a-Pantano
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 03:12 last edited by
FBI.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 19:41 last edited by
What we really need to do is pilot a Barge through the Swamp.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 20:46 last edited by
Enrique Torres is a helluva name for the leader of a White Supremacist group…
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wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 20:51 last edited by
@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
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@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 21:53 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.
By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.
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What we really need to do is pilot a Barge through the Swamp.
wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 22:10 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
What we really need to do is pilot a Barge through the Swamp.
Say that would be a novel idea.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.
By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.
wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 22:40 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.
By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.
Y ah, but I’m pretty sure actually blowing up a vbomb in the Senate is a little worse….
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@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.
By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.
wrote on 8 Sept 2023, 23:33 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.
Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…
Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.
By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.
Great. So when will we be prosecuting Antifa? We should probably indict Donna Brazille as well. Most of the other Congressional Democrats can face lesser charges.
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wrote on 9 Sept 2023, 01:50 last edited by
@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:
It's not a new term.
Never will happen. Probably every president in the last 50 years has said some type of promise about "drain the swamp", and even though I do not bet, I am willing to bet that nothing has ever been done. And I am confident to say that unfortunately, nothing will be done.