Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6

[89th]

Great, more talk about 'rea and steep climbs!

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

You're good with the weaponization of the Justice Department? You're good with punitive sentences worthy of a Soviet kangaroo court? You hate people that much?

What I don't understand is that you think that somehow the hundreds (maybe thousands) of people involved with the case, including people appointed by Presidents Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, jury selected per US protocol, and not only in this case but the hundreds of others, that somehow.....

all these people involved conspired to find these people guilty and send them to jail. And yet you say that the majority of the people in the US support President Trump. (And therefore it would seem that they would also support what happened on Jan 6).

Yet, somehow these people involved are found guilty and sentenced to jail.

What is the English saying - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, well, it is probably a duck!!

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

You're good with the weaponization of the Justice Department? You're good with punitive sentences worthy of a Soviet kangaroo court? You hate people that much?

What I don't understand is that you think that somehow the hundreds (maybe thousands) of people involved with the case, including people appointed by Presidents Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, jury selected per US protocol, and not only in this case but the hundreds of others, that somehow.....

all these people involved conspired to find these people guilty and send them to jail. And yet you say that the majority of the people in the US support President Trump. (And therefore it would seem that they would also support what happened on Jan 6).

Yet, somehow these people involved are found guilty and sentenced to jail.

What is the English saying - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, well, it is probably a duck!!

You may understand numbers, but I don't think you understand human nature and the culture of the Beltway. I've written extensively on why I think the arrests, incarcerations and sentences are far beyond what is normally experienced in the American judicial system.

[Horace]

I am hoping to see a writeup someday of an apples to apples comparison of crimes and punishments for these charges, going back a few decades.

[jon-nyc]

[Renauda]

[Horace]

Regardless of the ad hominems thrown at the judge, or whether they are misplaced, it will be nice to see a demonstration that the prosecution and sentence is in line with similar prosecutions and sentences through recent history.

If the sentence is out of line, that's an interesting thing regardless of whether the judge fits certain tribal characteristics. And even as far as the tribal characteristics in question go, membership in the federalist society and an appointment by the Trump administration is not dispositive of being a never-Trumper.

[Jolly]

The Swamp has no party.

Do not challenge the power of The Swamp.

[jon-nyc]

The constitution has no party. Do not plot to overthrow the constitution.

[Jolly]

No, right now the Constitution most definitely has a party. You can tell by the smell of the donkey shit rubbed on it.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

The Swamp has no party.

What is the swamp. Everybody seems to refer to it, but nobody really knows or can tell me what it actually is.

Someone who has been in Washington DC for a number of years?
Someone who has been a politician for a number of years?
etc?

I dont understand.

[Jolly]

It's not a new term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drain_the_swamp#:~:text=Drain the swamp is a,of special interests and lobbyists.

[89th]

Perhaps trump should rename his property Mar-a-Lago-a-Pantano

[Jolly]

FBI.

F. ederales
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[Doctor Phibes]

What we really need to do is pilot a Barge through the Swamp.

[LuFins Dad]

Enrique Torres is a helluva name for the leader of a White Supremacist group…

[LuFins Dad]

@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.

Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…

[jon-nyc]

@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.

Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…

Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.

By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

What we really need to do is pilot a Barge through the Swamp.

Say that would be a novel idea.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

@LuFins-Dad said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

@Mik said in Proud Boy leader sentence to 22 years for Jan 6:

Not sure I saw anything that day worth 22 years.

Well Torres wasn’t even there that day.. He was in jail for defacing a BLM monument… Do it wasn’t about what he did, it’s about what he said he wanted to do…

Seditious conspiracy is an affirmative act. You didn't do it, I didn't do it, he did it.

By the way his sentence was light according to the guidelines.

Y ah, but I’m pretty sure actually blowing up a vbomb in the Senate is a little worse….