Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Debate day….

Debate day….

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
111 Posts 12 Posters 2.8k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

    QUOTE
    The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

    The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

    Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

    Normal:
    Nikki Haley
    Asa Hutchinson

    Semi Normal:
    Chris Christie
    Doug Burgum

    Abnormal:
    Mike Pence
    Ron DeSantis
    Tim Scott
    Vivek Ramaswamy

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

    HoraceH Online
    HoraceH Online
    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #99

    @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

    One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

    QUOTE
    The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

    The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

    Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

    Normal:
    Nikki Haley
    Asa Hutchinson

    Semi Normal:
    Chris Christie
    Doug Burgum

    Abnormal:
    Mike Pence
    Ron DeSantis
    Tim Scott
    Vivek Ramaswamy

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

    Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

    Education is extremely important.

    taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
    • HoraceH Horace

      @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

      One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

      QUOTE
      The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

      The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

      Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

      Normal:
      Nikki Haley
      Asa Hutchinson

      Semi Normal:
      Chris Christie
      Doug Burgum

      Abnormal:
      Mike Pence
      Ron DeSantis
      Tim Scott
      Vivek Ramaswamy

      https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

      Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

      taiwan_girlT Offline
      taiwan_girlT Offline
      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #100

      @Horace said in Debate day….:

      Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

      As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @Horace said in Debate day….:

        Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

        As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

        HoraceH Online
        HoraceH Online
        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #101

        @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

        @Horace said in Debate day….:

        Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

        As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

        I actually didn't watch the whole thing. I have an extraordinarily busy lifestyle, and sometimes politics must take a back seat.

        I've already posted my opinions about what I did see. Ramaswamy was cringier than I was hoping. However I can imagine that if that were the first time hearing his message, as I imagine it was for many viewers, it could have been compelling. My expectations were for the message and more maturity. He doesn't need to be 38 and also a kid acting like he's on a playground. I expect him to turn the maturity up a notch in the future debates. He's not a Trump character, unable to switch gears based on feedback and reflection. As for the other candidates, I thought Haley commanded the stage well and was effective when she tried to put Ramaswamy in his place. Christie can get the conservative never Trumper vote, fine, but he seemed like more of a comedian than a president. Pence is a plastic product of some kind.

        Education is extremely important.

        1 Reply Last reply
        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #102

          I would not categorize them in that rather stupid hierarchy.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

          1 Reply Last reply
          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

            QUOTE
            The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

            The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

            Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

            Normal:
            Nikki Haley
            Asa Hutchinson

            Semi Normal:
            Chris Christie
            Doug Burgum

            Abnormal:
            Mike Pence
            Ron DeSantis
            Tim Scott
            Vivek Ramaswamy

            https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #103

            @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

            One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

            QUOTE
            The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

            The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

            Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

            Normal:
            Nikki Haley
            Asa Hutchinson

            Semi Normal:
            Chris Christie
            Doug Burgum

            Abnormal:
            Mike Pence
            Ron DeSantis
            Tim Scott
            Vivek Ramaswamy

            https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

            Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

            The Brad

            taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

              QUOTE
              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

              Normal:
              Nikki Haley
              Asa Hutchinson

              Semi Normal:
              Chris Christie
              Doug Burgum

              Abnormal:
              Mike Pence
              Ron DeSantis
              Tim Scott
              Vivek Ramaswamy

              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
              taiwan_girlT Offline
              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #104

              @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

              QUOTE
              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

              Normal:
              Nikki Haley
              Asa Hutchinson

              Semi Normal:
              Chris Christie
              Doug Burgum

              Abnormal:
              Mike Pence
              Ron DeSantis
              Tim Scott
              Vivek Ramaswamy

              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

              @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

              QUOTE
              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

              Normal:
              Nikki Haley
              Asa Hutchinson

              Semi Normal:
              Chris Christie
              Doug Burgum

              Abnormal:
              Mike Pence
              Ron DeSantis
              Tim Scott
              Vivek Ramaswamy

              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

              My understanding (maybe incorrect) was that the labels related to how close to the center they were.

              1 Reply Last reply
              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #105

                Nobody normal is going to want to be President. It's a self-selecting freak show.

                I was only joking

                1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #106

                  Seen on Twitter:

                  Debate Summary:

                  • Nikki Haley was the least bad
                  • Vivek Ramaswamy is insufferable
                  • Ron DeSantis is the most awkward person alive
                  • Mike Pence might as well be in a Witness Protection Program
                  • Chris Christie is preaching to the wrong choir

                  You’re all caught up.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • JollyJ Offline
                    JollyJ Offline
                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #107

                    The DNC didn't like any of them, huh?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • George KG Offline
                      George KG Offline
                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #108

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #109

                        I posted that in one of the Vivek threads.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                        1 Reply Last reply
                        • HoraceH Online
                          HoraceH Online
                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #110

                          Let the record show that jon posted that meme from somewhere on the internet first.

                          Education is extremely important.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          • taiwan_girlT Offline
                            taiwan_girlT Offline
                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #111

                            >Former President Donald Trump will travel to the battleground state of Michigan next week to meet with striking autoworkers instead of participating in the second Republican presidential debate, a person familiar with his plans said Monday.

                            https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-debate-strike-f79e9f0db53694206805d0bd3ae6683a

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            Reply
                            • Reply as topic
                            Log in to reply
                            • Oldest to Newest
                            • Newest to Oldest
                            • Most Votes


                            • Login

                            • Don't have an account? Register

                            • Login or register to search.
                            • First post
                              Last post
                            0
                            • Categories
                            • Recent
                            • Tags
                            • Popular
                            • Users
                            • Groups