Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023)
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How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.
@taiwan_girl said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.
Works for me...
Good luck getting that passed through <checks notes> Congress.
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There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.
The 27th Amendment:
No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.
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There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.
The 27th Amendment:
No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.
@Axtremus Of course! 555
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/shutdown-latest-government-funding/index.html
Congress on track for shutdown as GOP divisions on full display after late night votes
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For the 5 or so representatives, this is their peak I think. While possible, it is doubtful that the next election will result in the same Reb vs. Dem breakdown. If the Reb have a higher majority, it is possible that 6 votes will not be needed. If the Dem have the majority, then obviously, they will not be needed.
And I think that the Reb leadership has a long memory.
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Just for good measure, House Republicans reject their own funding bill one more time just before government shutdown.
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https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/09/30/congress/stopgap-passes-00119280
the House on Saturday took an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote to avert a shutdown at midnight on Sunday — with the majority of Democrats bailing out the GOP.
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McCarthy shocked his party — and most on the Hill — by deciding to put a "clean" bill on the floor that could be enough to doom his speakership. The short-term funding patch that passed includes none of the GOP’s spending cuts or border policies. The only addition: $16 billion for [flood] disaster aid sought by the White House. -
@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
This true?
I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.
@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
This true?
I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.
The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/
The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.
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@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
This true?
I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.
The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/
The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.
@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
This true?
I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.
The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/
The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.
Sharper than a Mexican rowel, not.
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@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
This true?
I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.
The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/
The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.
Sharper than a Mexican rowel, not.
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The vote count:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-tees-up-votes-last-minute-scramble-avert-shutdown-2023-09-30/Overall: 391 for, 91 against
Among those voted to pass the 45-day funding bill, 209 are Democrats, 126 are Republicans. -
The Senate passed the bill, and Biden signed it:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/30/politics/us-government-shutdown-latest/index.html
Looks like there will be no government shutdown.
Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this?
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The Republic is indeed safer with an operating federal government than without. Let's see how Congress do with a separate Ukraine funding bill that's supposed to make up for its omission from the Sep.30 government funding bill. If that goes well and quickly, I will sleep even better knowing that the world is safer too.
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The Senate passed the bill, and Biden signed it:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/30/politics/us-government-shutdown-latest/index.html
Looks like there will be no government shutdown.
Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this?
@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):
Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this?
Looks like the House GOP will indeed file a motion to vacate McCarthy:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/oct/1/matt-gaetz-says-he-will-seek-to-oust-kevin-mccarth/
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/politics/senate-vote-avert-shutdown/index.html
The Nov. 17 shutdown has been averted. The can has been kicked down to Jan. 19.
No aid funding for Ukraine or Israel in the meantime.
The continuing drama:
But the short-term funding plan sparked backlash from House conservatives who were upset that it did not include deep spending cuts that they have demanded. As a result, the bill required Democratic support to pass the House.
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In the end, more House Democrats supported the measure than Republicans – a warning sign for [House Speaker] Johnson. -
Easy to campaign. Difficult to govern. I think that Rep. Johnson is finding this out.
