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  • George KG George K

    @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

    Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

    Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

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    @George-K said in Bidenomics:

    Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

    But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

    But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

      Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

      But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

      But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

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      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

      the last months of President Trump term

      Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

        the last months of President Trump term

        Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

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        #113

        @George-K said in Bidenomics:

        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

        the last months of President Trump term

        Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

        Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

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        • George KG George K

          @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

          the last months of President Trump term

          Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

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          Axtremus
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          #114

          @George-K said in Bidenomics:

          @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

          the last months of President Trump term

          Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

          Or optimism buoyed by the expectation of the coming Biden Presidency! 😉

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @George-K said in Bidenomics:

            @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

            the last months of President Trump term

            Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

            Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

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            George K
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            #115

            @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

            to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

            GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #116

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

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                #117

                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                Meh, prices did go down overall by a small amount, but not even close to a “plummet”. And almost all of the drop was precipitated by eggs, where production is finally getting back on track.

                The Brad

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                  George K
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                  "According to the report, they went down 0.02% for the first time in a year. So groceries that used to cost $155 cost $250 in March but “plummeted” to $245 in April! Huge savings! Huge! $5!!!!"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #119

                    What bullshit.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      What bullshit.

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                      @Mik said in Bidenomics:

                      What bullshit.

                      I know they have to try, because some people are just that stupid, but just about anybody in the middle class has felt the pinch of significant inflation during Biden's term.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG George K

                        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                        to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                        GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

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                        #121

                        @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                        to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                        GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                        Why does he have red laser eyes? 😳

                        @Larry and I went back and forth on this. I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship between those and which party was the president. And I would get the typical Larry response: "If you are too dumb to understand that, then I'm not going to tell you." LOL

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                          to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                          GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                          Why does he have red laser eyes? 😳

                          @Larry and I went back and forth on this. I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship between those and which party was the president. And I would get the typical Larry response: "If you are too dumb to understand that, then I'm not going to tell you." LOL

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                          @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                          I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship

                          You may well be right. But James Carville will disagree, at least when it comes to politics.

                          Of course, politics might bear no relation to reality.

                          But in politics, perception is reality.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                            I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship

                            You may well be right. But James Carville will disagree, at least when it comes to politics.

                            Of course, politics might bear no relation to reality.

                            But in politics, perception is reality.

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                            @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

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                              #124

                              Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

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                                Axtremus
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                                #125

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Bidenomics:

                                Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                                Have you tried offering 7-figures?

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bidenomics:

                                  Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                                  Have you tried offering 7-figures?

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                                  @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                                  Have you tried offering 7-figures?

                                  I'd take the job if they offered that much.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

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                                    #127

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                    @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

                                    Most of my income currently is fixed. If you don't think people in my situation have not noticed how their income has shrunk under Biden, you are delusional.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                      @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

                                      Most of my income currently is fixed. If you don't think people in my situation have not noticed how their income has shrunk under Biden, you are delusional.

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                                      @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                      @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

                                      Most of my income currently is fixed. If you don't think people in my situation have not noticed how their income has shrunk under Biden, you are delusional.

                                      I am not disagreeing. I am just saying that most people vote on emotion. I could post something about how the economy under Obama was better than under Trump, and there would be ALOT of people claiming otherwise. Or vice versa.

                                      There was a chart I posted a while back (from the Customs/Border people) that showed that the number of illegal aliens coming into the US was basically flat from Obama through Trump. But many people will say that it was much lower under PResident Trump.

                                      As @George-K says: politics is perception, and perception is not always reality.

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                                        George K
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                                        https://www.wsj.com/economy/stock-market-performance-biden-trump-charts-1a83371b

                                        Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.21.44 AM.png

                                        Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.21.36 AM.png

                                        However, I've been assured that people don't live off of Wall Street.

                                        Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.22.35 AM.png

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          https://www.wsj.com/economy/stock-market-performance-biden-trump-charts-1a83371b

                                          Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.21.44 AM.png

                                          Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.21.36 AM.png

                                          However, I've been assured that people don't live off of Wall Street.

                                          Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.22.35 AM.png

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                                          @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                          https://www.wsj.com/economy/stock-market-performance-biden-trump-charts-1a83371b

                                          Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.21.44 AM.png

                                          Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.21.36 AM.png

                                          However, I've been assured that people don't live off of Wall Street.

                                          Screenshot 2024-05-20 at 10.22.35 AM.png

                                          That adjusted for inflation chart is quite interesting.

                                          The Brad

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