"Whiteness"
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 02:29 last edited by
LuFins Dad, great post above!
Actually, lots of great posts in this thread.
But none of you have been able to answer what to me is a fundamental question, which is:
If a black man and a white woman have a kid,
why isn't the kid gray?
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 02:38 last edited by
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 02:46 last edited by
That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.
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That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.
wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 03:06 last edited by Loki...
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 04:29 last edited by
"Productive conversation."
I'll stay with "21st Century Racism" for 300, Alex!
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 11:20 last edited by
Right now, the most productive conversation about race, is no conversation about race.
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 11:22 last edited by
"Let's have a conversations" means "Shut UP, and listen to what I say."
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 16:02 last edited by
NMAAHC
Get a job, creep
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:50 last edited by
Jonah GOldberg:
https://thedispatch.com/p/when-bigotry-comes-from-unexpected
If I were to say to a black friend, never mind a black stranger or co-worker, “Look, I understand your culture doesn’t value punctuality or hard work the way mine does ...” would that be better? It would certainly be impolite to say the least.
Occasionally impolite, I guess.
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:57 last edited by
"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?
Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 23:10 last edited by Horace
"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse."
"Almost"? The left salivates at the idea of worse race relations. And the easiest way they can do that is to increase the perception of racism.
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wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 23:25 last edited by
The Left/democrats have always been the racists.
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"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?
Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.
wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:11 last edited by@Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":
"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?
Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.
Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:39 last edited by
Cats often expresses her desire for the world to shut up about certain things.
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:41 last edited by
I do? Really?
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@Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":
"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?
Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.
Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.
wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 09:11 last edited by Catseye3@LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":
Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?
I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.
One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.
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@LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":
Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?
I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.
One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.
wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 11:58 last edited by@Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":
One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.
If this was some stupid meme posted to Facebook, sure. If this was on a pamphlet circulated by some millennials, maybe. This was created, approved, and published by The Smithsonian. The research it was based on was generated by one of the most prominent activists on social justice in the US. This isn’t some out there group, this was the freaking Smithsonian.
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 12:05 last edited by
I don't say it was awful. I just think it could have been, I don't know, more substantive maybe? Maybe readers of material put out by the Smithsonian could be thought to grok weightier stuff?
We'll just have to disagree on this one, LuFin.
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 13:32 last edited by
If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.
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If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.
wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 15:13 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":
If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.
You always expect some to get carried away by a cause, but letting this actually get published is quite telling.
Props for pulling back though. There is hope.