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"Whiteness"

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    jon-nyc
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    #38

    D1823C8B-5784-4528-936E-10ED55B1E845.png

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      LuFins Dad
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      #39

      That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

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        #40

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #41

          "Productive conversation."

          I'll stay with "21st Century Racism" for 300, Alex!

          Please love yourself.

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            #42

            Right now, the most productive conversation about race, is no conversation about race.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #43

              "Let's have a conversations" means "Shut UP, and listen to what I say."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Copper
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                #44

                NMAAHC

                Get a job, creep

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                  George K
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                  #45

                  Jonah GOldberg:

                  https://thedispatch.com/p/when-bigotry-comes-from-unexpected

                  If I were to say to a black friend, never mind a black stranger or co-worker, “Look, I understand your culture doesn’t value punctuality or hard work the way mine does ...” would that be better? It would certainly be impolite to say the least.

                  Occasionally impolite, I guess.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #46

                    "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                    Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      #47

                      "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse."

                      "Almost"? The left salivates at the idea of worse race relations. And the easiest way they can do that is to increase the perception of racism.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        #48

                        The Left/democrats have always been the racists.

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                          Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                          "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                          Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                          Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

                          The Brad

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                            Cats often expresses her desire for the world to shut up about certain things.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Catseye3
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                              I do? Really?

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                                Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

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                                Catseye3
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                                #52

                                @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                                Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

                                I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

                                One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                                  Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

                                  I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

                                  One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

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                                  @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                  One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

                                  If this was some stupid meme posted to Facebook, sure. If this was on a pamphlet circulated by some millennials, maybe. This was created, approved, and published by The Smithsonian. The research it was based on was generated by one of the most prominent activists on social justice in the US. This isn’t some out there group, this was the freaking Smithsonian.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Catseye3
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                                    I don't say it was awful. I just think it could have been, I don't know, more substantive maybe? Maybe readers of material put out by the Smithsonian could be thought to grok weightier stuff?

                                    We'll just have to disagree on this one, LuFin.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      #55

                                      If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

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                                        Loki
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                                        #56

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                        If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

                                        You always expect some to get carried away by a cause, but letting this actually get published is quite telling.

                                        Props for pulling back though. There is hope.

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                                          This is why you don't create museums based on skin color.

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