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"Whiteness"

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #32

    Rest assured, I'm bowing on the inside. On the outside, you're getting the bird.

    I was only joking

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    • LarryL Offline
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      Larry
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      #33

      Hahahahaha

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #34

        Here's the real dangers in that poster IMO:

        1. "Self-reliance - Independence & autonomy highly valued + rewarded" these are positive human attributes regardless of race... Every person should aspire to those ideals. I would think that a race that spent 300 years in slavery would particularly value independence and autonomy. To do otherwise is to ask for shackles.

        "Emphasis on Scientific Method - Objective, rational thinking - Cause and effect relationships - Quantitative emphasis" again, what's the problem? Seems pretty reasonable to me. What is the reasonable alternative? By the way, empirical methods for both science and social issues were first developed and used in Northern Africa...

        "Justice - Based on English common law" Not entirely, especially since English common law has influences from around the world, but aside from that, yeah? So what? Got something better? Didn't think so.

        1. They then sprinkle the above statements into absolutely absurd stereotypes like "Win at all costs - Wife subordinate to the husband - If you didn't reach your goals, you didn't work hard enough" in an obvious attempt to paint those other ideals as being equally ludicrous.

        The Brad

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #35

          Is there a similar poster about values of other cultures? I would be fascinated to see it, if anybody can link to one.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Is there a similar poster about values of other cultures? I would be fascinated to see it, if anybody can link to one.

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            George K
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            #36

            @Horace said in "Whiteness":

            Is there a similar poster about values of other cultures? I would be fascinated to see it, if anybody can link to one.

            "Other cultures?"

            Hell, I'd like to see a poster like that about black cultures.

            Can you imagine if there were comments about black aesthetics? It would be branded as racist faster than you can say Sir-Mix-A-Lot.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • RainmanR Offline
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              Rainman
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              #37

              LuFins Dad, great post above!

              Actually, lots of great posts in this thread.

              But none of you have been able to answer what to me is a fundamental question, which is:

              If a black man and a white woman have a kid,
              why isn't the kid gray?
              hmmm?

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #38

                D1823C8B-5784-4528-936E-10ED55B1E845.png

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #39

                  That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

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                    Loki
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                    #40

                    ...

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #41

                      "Productive conversation."

                      I'll stay with "21st Century Racism" for 300, Alex!

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #42

                        Right now, the most productive conversation about race, is no conversation about race.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #43

                          "Let's have a conversations" means "Shut UP, and listen to what I say."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
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                            #44

                            NMAAHC

                            Get a job, creep

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              #45

                              Jonah GOldberg:

                              https://thedispatch.com/p/when-bigotry-comes-from-unexpected

                              If I were to say to a black friend, never mind a black stranger or co-worker, “Look, I understand your culture doesn’t value punctuality or hard work the way mine does ...” would that be better? It would certainly be impolite to say the least.

                              Occasionally impolite, I guess.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Catseye3
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                                #46

                                "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Horace
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                                  #47

                                  "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse."

                                  "Almost"? The left salivates at the idea of worse race relations. And the easiest way they can do that is to increase the perception of racism.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    The Left/democrats have always been the racists.

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                                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                      "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                      Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      #49

                                      @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                      "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

                                      Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

                                      Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

                                      The Brad

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #50

                                        Cats often expresses her desire for the world to shut up about certain things.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Catseye3
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                                          I do? Really?

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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