"Whiteness"

[Rainman]

LuFins Dad, great post above!

Actually, lots of great posts in this thread.

But none of you have been able to answer what to me is a fundamental question, which is:

If a black man and a white woman have a kid,
why isn't the kid gray?
hmmm?

[jon-nyc]

[LuFins Dad]

That doesn’t change the fact that somebody actually created the chart and it was approved for publication and posting. I am still flabbergasted that they disparaged autonomy and independence as “whiteness”.

[Loki]

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[Aqua Letifer]

"Productive conversation."

I'll stay with "21st Century Racism" for 300, Alex!

[Jolly]

Right now, the most productive conversation about race, is no conversation about race.

[George K]

"Let's have a conversations" means "Shut UP, and listen to what I say."

[Copper]

NMAAHC

Get a job, creep

[George K]

Jonah GOldberg:

https://thedispatch.com/p/when-bigotry-comes-from-unexpected

If I were to say to a black friend, never mind a black stranger or co-worker, “Look, I understand your culture doesn’t value punctuality or hard work the way mine does ...” would that be better? It would certainly be impolite to say the least.

Occasionally impolite, I guess.

[Catseye3]

"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

[Horace]

"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse."

"Almost"? The left salivates at the idea of worse race relations. And the easiest way they can do that is to increase the perception of racism.

[Larry]

The Left/democrats have always been the racists.

[LuFins Dad]

@Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

"[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

[Horace]

Cats often expresses her desire for the world to shut up about certain things.

[Catseye3]

I do? Really?

[Catseye3]

@LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

[LuFins Dad]

@Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

If this was some stupid meme posted to Facebook, sure. If this was on a pamphlet circulated by some millennials, maybe. This was created, approved, and published by The Smithsonian. The research it was based on was generated by one of the most prominent activists on social justice in the US. This isn’t some out there group, this was the freaking Smithsonian.

[Catseye3]

I don't say it was awful. I just think it could have been, I don't know, more substantive maybe? Maybe readers of material put out by the Smithsonian could be thought to grok weightier stuff?

We'll just have to disagree on this one, LuFin.

[Aqua Letifer]

If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

[Loki]

@Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

You always expect some to get carried away by a cause, but letting this actually get published is quite telling.

Props for pulling back though. There is hope.