George Santos Charged
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So Gaetz next?
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@LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:
So Gaetz next?
On what grounds, being an a-hole?
AFAIK the ethics charges against him are questionable and there are no indictments.
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@Axtremus said in George Santos Charged:
Republican-led push to expel George Santos fails in the House
The resolution needed a two-thirds majority to succeed, but fell well short. The final vote was 179 to 213 with 19 members voting present.
Good.
When convicted, they can toss him.
If reprehensible behavior is the key to expulsion, have I got a couple of hate-spewing antisemites for your consideration.
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@George-K said in George Santos Charged:
@LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:
So Gaetz next?
On what grounds, being an a-hole?
AFAIK the ethics charges against him are questionable and there are no indictments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution
Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member.
Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly? And do you think you could get enough votes?
How about Omar? Or Tlaib in the Senate? Think you could get 17 Dems in the Senate to vote for expulsion? There are currently 9 Jewish Democrat Senators… Add in Manchin, Sinema, Lurch… I bet you could find 17 members, especially since she’s attacking the sitting President with an upcoming election…
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Brain fart.
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@LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:
Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly?
I realize that. IT's their house and they make the rules.
Gaetz? Disorderly? Of course.
Lurch hasn't been out of line that I've seen, other than his attire.
Tlaib...yeah.The majority controls the committees, and I have little doubt that they will, um, suggest to their members to follow the lines that leadership should be followed.
(too lazy to look it up)
Have there been similar findings by the ethics committee in the past where members have not been expelled?
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It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:
It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.
It doesn’t really matter. Now that the step has been taken, it will be easier the next. When have you seen our political leaders not take a new precedent and new authority and abuse it?
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@George-K said in George Santos Charged:
@LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:
Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly?
I realize that. IT's their house and they make the rules.
Gaetz? Disorderly? Of course.
Lurch hasn't been out of line that I've seen, other than his attire.
Tlaib...yeah.The majority controls the committees, and I have little doubt that they will, um, suggest to their members to follow the lines that leadership should be followed.
(too lazy to look it up)
Have there been similar findings by the ethics committee in the past where members have not been expelled?
I just meant that I could see Lurch voting for Tlaib to be removed, but as Jon pointed out, wrong group…
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Wow, having to give Lurch props again… https://nypost.com/2023/12/01/news/sen-bob-menendez-much-more-sinister-than-george-santos-sen-john-fetterman-says-he-needs-to-go/
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@Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:
It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.
There have been only six members expelled from the House.
Three of those fought for the Confederacy.
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@Jolly said in George Santos Charged:
@Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:
It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.
There have been only six members expelled from the House.
Three of those fought for the Confederacy.
Well I do think the system of removing the party whip is much better, but it seems like this had cross party support
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His speech is markedly improved
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@LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:
His speech is markedly improved
Remarkable, isn't it? He's coherent, pleasant-ish.
Now all he needs is a good-fitting suit.
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Ann Althouse comments:
We were kicking him, and he moved his ass.
"Pelosi calls Santos a ‘coward’ for leaving chamber before expulsion vote closed" (The Hill).
“This is not a casual vote for us. It’s something you take very seriously and and he should have taken it seriously,” Pelosi told reporters following the vote, adding that he “should have been man about it.”
Be a man — I hadn't heard that in a while.
Was that a one-time pot shot, just for Santos? He's gay, right? On any other day, you'd be canceled for advising the gay man... or any man... to "be a man." But on very special days, there's one person who liberates everyone to say what they really think.