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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 16:41 last edited by LuFins Dad 12 Jan 2023, 16:41
    #60

    So Gaetz next?

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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        1 Dec 2023, 16:41

        So Gaetz next?

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        George K
        wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 17:01 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

        So Gaetz next?

        On what grounds, being an a-hole?

        AFAIK the ethics charges against him are questionable and there are no indictments.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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          I don’t have the issue you guys have. The ethics committee’s work counts as due process as far as I’m concerned.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • A Axtremus
            2 Nov 2023, 05:23

            https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-republicans-force-vote-push-expel-george-santos/story?id=104539525

            Republican-led push to expel George Santos fails in the House

            The resolution needed a two-thirds majority to succeed, but fell well short. The final vote was 179 to 213 with 19 members voting present.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 17:58 last edited by
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            @Axtremus said in George Santos Charged:

            https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-republicans-force-vote-push-expel-george-santos/story?id=104539525

            Republican-led push to expel George Santos fails in the House

            The resolution needed a two-thirds majority to succeed, but fell well short. The final vote was 179 to 213 with 19 members voting present.

            Good.

            When convicted, they can toss him.

            If reprehensible behavior is the key to expulsion, have I got a couple of hate-spewing antisemites for your consideration.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • G George K
              1 Dec 2023, 17:01

              @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

              So Gaetz next?

              On what grounds, being an a-hole?

              AFAIK the ethics charges against him are questionable and there are no indictments.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 18:28 last edited by
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              @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

              @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

              So Gaetz next?

              On what grounds, being an a-hole?

              AFAIK the ethics charges against him are questionable and there are no indictments.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution

              Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member.

              Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly? And do you think you could get enough votes?

              How about Omar? Or Tlaib in the Senate? Think you could get 17 Dems in the Senate to vote for expulsion? There are currently 9 Jewish Democrat Senators… Add in Manchin, Sinema, Lurch… I bet you could find 17 members, especially since she’s attacking the sitting President with an upcoming election…

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 18:50 last edited by
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                Tlaib is in the House

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 19:15 last edited by
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                  Brain fart.

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    1 Dec 2023, 18:28

                    @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

                    So Gaetz next?

                    On what grounds, being an a-hole?

                    AFAIK the ethics charges against him are questionable and there are no indictments.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution

                    Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member.

                    Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly? And do you think you could get enough votes?

                    How about Omar? Or Tlaib in the Senate? Think you could get 17 Dems in the Senate to vote for expulsion? There are currently 9 Jewish Democrat Senators… Add in Manchin, Sinema, Lurch… I bet you could find 17 members, especially since she’s attacking the sitting President with an upcoming election…

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                    George K
                    wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 19:47 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

                    Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly?

                    I realize that. IT's their house and they make the rules.

                    Gaetz? Disorderly? Of course.
                    Lurch hasn't been out of line that I've seen, other than his attire.
                    Tlaib...yeah.

                    The majority controls the committees, and I have little doubt that they will, um, suggest to their members to follow the lines that leadership should be followed.

                    (too lazy to look it up)

                    Have there been similar findings by the ethics committee in the past where members have not been expelled?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 19:49 last edited by
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                      It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        1 Dec 2023, 19:49

                        It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:

                        It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

                        It doesn’t really matter. Now that the step has been taken, it will be easier the next. When have you seen our political leaders not take a new precedent and new authority and abuse it?

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                        • G George K
                          1 Dec 2023, 19:47

                          @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

                          Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly?

                          I realize that. IT's their house and they make the rules.

                          Gaetz? Disorderly? Of course.
                          Lurch hasn't been out of line that I've seen, other than his attire.
                          Tlaib...yeah.

                          The majority controls the committees, and I have little doubt that they will, um, suggest to their members to follow the lines that leadership should be followed.

                          (too lazy to look it up)

                          Have there been similar findings by the ethics committee in the past where members have not been expelled?

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 21:07 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

                          Nothing there about ethics committees, convictions, etc… Would you say Gaetz’s attacks on McConnell were disorderly?

                          I realize that. IT's their house and they make the rules.

                          Gaetz? Disorderly? Of course.
                          Lurch hasn't been out of line that I've seen, other than his attire.
                          Tlaib...yeah.

                          The majority controls the committees, and I have little doubt that they will, um, suggest to their members to follow the lines that leadership should be followed.

                          (too lazy to look it up)

                          Have there been similar findings by the ethics committee in the past where members have not been expelled?

                          I just meant that I could see Lurch voting for Tlaib to be removed, but as Jon pointed out, wrong group…

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 23:20 last edited by
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                            Wow, having to give Lurch props again… https://nypost.com/2023/12/01/news/sen-bob-menendez-much-more-sinister-than-george-santos-sen-john-fetterman-says-he-needs-to-go/

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              1 Dec 2023, 19:49

                              It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 1 Dec 2023, 23:50 last edited by
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:

                              It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

                              There have been only six members expelled from the House.

                              Three of those fought for the Confederacy.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                1 Dec 2023, 23:50

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:

                                It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

                                There have been only six members expelled from the House.

                                Three of those fought for the Confederacy.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 00:03 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in George Santos Charged:

                                Three of those fought for the Confederacy.

                                I thought those guys had been erased from history.

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                                  1 Dec 2023, 23:50

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:

                                  It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

                                  There have been only six members expelled from the House.

                                  Three of those fought for the Confederacy.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 00:38 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in George Santos Charged:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in George Santos Charged:

                                  It seems like Santos went above and beyond what any of these other characters did.

                                  There have been only six members expelled from the House.

                                  Three of those fought for the Confederacy.

                                  Well I do think the system of removing the party whip is much better, but it seems like this had cross party support

                                  I was only joking

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 01:01 last edited by
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                                    Fetterman on The Harpy Hour View.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 01:09 last edited by
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                                      His speech is markedly improved

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                                        2 Dec 2023, 01:09

                                        His speech is markedly improved

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 01:14 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in George Santos Charged:

                                        His speech is markedly improved

                                        Remarkable, isn't it? He's coherent, pleasant-ish.

                                        Now all he needs is a good-fitting suit.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 16:34 last edited by George K 12 Mar 2023, 16:34
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                                          Ann Althouse comments:


                                          We were kicking him, and he moved his ass.

                                          "Pelosi calls Santos a ‘coward’ for leaving chamber before expulsion vote closed" (The Hill).

                                          “This is not a casual vote for us. It’s something you take very seriously and and he should have taken it seriously,” Pelosi told reporters following the vote, adding that he “should have been man about it.”

                                          Be a man — I hadn't heard that in a while.

                                          Was that a one-time pot shot, just for Santos? He's gay, right? On any other day, you'd be canceled for advising the gay man... or any man... to "be a man." But on very special days, there's one person who liberates everyone to say what they really think.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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