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Forced to carry a baby to term with no kidneys

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  • M Mik
    5 May 2023, 15:00

    We’re in NC this weekend and have of course heard a lot about this on the news. It also includes up to 24 weeks for a malformed child and no limit for life of the mother situations. It’s not extreme.

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    George K
    wrote on 5 May 2023, 15:09 last edited by
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    @Mik said in Forced to carry a baby to term with no kidneys:

    It’s not extreme.

    And it is the standard in repressive countries like Latvia, Greece, Germany, Switzerland.....

    Funny how that never gets mentioned.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • J jon-nyc
      4 May 2023, 12:54

      @89th A lot of these post-Dobbs laws were passed in a hurry and are pretty broadly written, so I’m not surprised the doctors wouldn’t take the risk.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 14 May 2023, 00:24 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Forced to carry a baby to term with no kidneys:

      @89th A lot of these post-Dobbs laws were passed in a hurry and are pretty broadly written, so I’m not surprised the doctors wouldn’t take the risk.

      On that point, in Idaho:

      ”Idaho’s murky abortion law is driving doctors out of the state“

      https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/13/us/idaho-abortion-doctors-drain/index.html

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        14 May 2023, 00:24

        @jon-nyc said in Forced to carry a baby to term with no kidneys:

        @89th A lot of these post-Dobbs laws were passed in a hurry and are pretty broadly written, so I’m not surprised the doctors wouldn’t take the risk.

        On that point, in Idaho:

        ”Idaho’s murky abortion law is driving doctors out of the state“

        https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/13/us/idaho-abortion-doctors-drain/index.html

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        George K
        wrote on 14 May 2023, 00:36 last edited by George K
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        @Axtremus the article says that of the 117 docs surveyed, about ⅔ "answered “yes” or “maybe” when asked if they were considering leaving the state at least in part because of the abortion laws."

        How many have actually left?

        From what I can see, the article cites one.

        ETA:

        Miller says five of the nine remaining full-time maternal-fetal medicine physicians in the state will have left by the end of this year.

        That's more than a bit deceptive. I found 25 Obstetricians in Idaho right here.

        And because there are no ob-gyn residencies in Idaho, finding doctors willing to relocate given the abortion laws on the books is a real challenge.

        That may or may not be the case, but there are no anesthesiology residencies in Idaho either, so, there's that.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          14 May 2023, 00:36

          @Axtremus the article says that of the 117 docs surveyed, about ⅔ "answered “yes” or “maybe” when asked if they were considering leaving the state at least in part because of the abortion laws."

          How many have actually left?

          From what I can see, the article cites one.

          ETA:

          Miller says five of the nine remaining full-time maternal-fetal medicine physicians in the state will have left by the end of this year.

          That's more than a bit deceptive. I found 25 Obstetricians in Idaho right here.

          And because there are no ob-gyn residencies in Idaho, finding doctors willing to relocate given the abortion laws on the books is a real challenge.

          That may or may not be the case, but there are no anesthesiology residencies in Idaho either, so, there's that.

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          wrote on 14 May 2023, 01:11 last edited by
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          @George-K, you certainly make very good points and your skepticism about the article is well taken. The law has just been signed recently. It will take some time to see measurable impacts, including how many Obstetricians leave (or not leave) the state.

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