Depression II
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 11:23 last edited by
Oh, YOU did the study I guess!
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I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 12:01 last edited by@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
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@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 12:07 last edited by@Horace said in Depression II:
@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care that aren’t necessarily looking for help but to be affirmed in their own insecurities. Once they are in positions of authority, confirmation bias takes over and a sane world suffers the consequences.
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@Horace said in Depression II:
@Mik said in Depression II:
I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.
But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.
Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.
It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care that aren’t necessarily looking for help but to be affirmed in their own insecurities. Once they are in positions of authority, confirmation bias takes over and a sane world suffers the consequences.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 12:15 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Depression II:
It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care
You haven't spent much time in university maths and physics departments, have you?
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 13:40 last edited by
It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.
There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 13:56 last edited by
Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
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It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.
There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 13:57 last edited by@Jolly said in Depression II:
It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.
There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.
Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of these folks benefit from less stimulation.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 13:59 last edited by
A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.
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A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 14:04 last edited by@Mik said in Depression II:
A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.
I had a school friend who ended up in the hospital I linked to above. I ran into him years later and it was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen. He was hardly there, and I think they may have done ECT on him. It was just awful, and he had been such a nice, bright kid, but then he got into dope.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 14:07 last edited by
I dug a big hole and planted a tree yesterday. Today, my back is infused with the happy spirit of rural living.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 14:14 last edited by
Work will set you free.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 14:35 last edited by
@Jolly said in Depression II:
Work will set you free.
It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.
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@Jolly said in Depression II:
Work will set you free.
It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 14:38 last edited by@Mik said in Depression II:
@Jolly said in Depression II:
Work will set you free.
It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.
That quote is slightly, err, "problematic".
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 14:57 last edited by
Oh?
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 15:00 last edited by
I believe it was a motto of the 'labor' camps.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 15:08 last edited by
It's on the gates of Auschwitz
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 15:14 last edited by
Well that escalated quickly.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 15:26 last edited by
Yes, I knew that. So did Jolly.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 18:31 last edited by
Hence, the quote.
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Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 19:10 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:
Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.
Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.
For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!
Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.
This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.