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  • JollyJ Jolly

    It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

    There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

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    @Jolly said in Depression II:

    It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

    There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

    Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of these folks benefit from less stimulation.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Mik

        A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

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        @Mik said in Depression II:

        A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

        I had a school friend who ended up in the hospital I linked to above. I ran into him years later and it was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen. He was hardly there, and I think they may have done ECT on him. It was just awful, and he had been such a nice, bright kid, but then he got into dope.

        I was only joking

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          I dug a big hole and planted a tree yesterday. Today, my back is infused with the happy spirit of rural living.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Work will set you free.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Work will set you free.

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              @Jolly said in Depression II:

              Work will set you free.

              It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • MikM Mik

                @Jolly said in Depression II:

                Work will set you free.

                It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

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                @Mik said in Depression II:

                @Jolly said in Depression II:

                Work will set you free.

                It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                That quote is slightly, err, "problematic".

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                  Oh?

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    I believe it was a motto of the 'labor' camps.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      It's on the gates of Auschwitz

                      I was only joking

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                        Well that escalated quickly.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Yes, I knew that. So did Jolly.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Hence, the quote.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                              Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                              For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                              Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                              Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                              Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                              For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                              Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                              This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                              It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

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                              • RainmanR Rainman

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

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                                @Rainman said in Depression II:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.

                                The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.

                                The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.

                                It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Rainman said in Depression II:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                  Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                  Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                  For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                  Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                  This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                  It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                  I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.

                                  The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.

                                  The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.

                                  It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes Very interesting and very interesting pictures.

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