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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #10

    It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

    There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #11

      Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

      Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

      For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

      Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

      I was only joking

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

        There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

        MikM Offline
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        Mik
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        #12

        @Jolly said in Depression II:

        It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

        There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

        Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of these folks benefit from less stimulation.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #13

          A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • MikM Mik

            A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #14

            @Mik said in Depression II:

            A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

            I had a school friend who ended up in the hospital I linked to above. I ran into him years later and it was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen. He was hardly there, and I think they may have done ECT on him. It was just awful, and he had been such a nice, bright kid, but then he got into dope.

            I was only joking

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              Horace
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              #15

              I dug a big hole and planted a tree yesterday. Today, my back is infused with the happy spirit of rural living.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                #16

                Work will set you free.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Work will set you free.

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  #17

                  @Jolly said in Depression II:

                  Work will set you free.

                  It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @Jolly said in Depression II:

                    Work will set you free.

                    It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

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                    Klaus
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                    #18

                    @Mik said in Depression II:

                    @Jolly said in Depression II:

                    Work will set you free.

                    It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                    That quote is slightly, err, "problematic".

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #19

                      Oh?

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        I believe it was a motto of the 'labor' camps.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          It's on the gates of Auschwitz

                          I was only joking

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                            Horace
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                            Well that escalated quickly.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
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                              Yes, I knew that. So did Jolly.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                Hence, the quote.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                  Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                  For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                  Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

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                                  Rainman
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                  Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                  Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                  For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                  Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                  This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                  It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

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                                  • RainmanR Rainman

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                    Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                    Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                    For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                    Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                    This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                    It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #26

                                    @Rainman said in Depression II:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                    Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                    Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                    For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                    Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                    This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                    It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                    I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.

                                    The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.

                                    The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.

                                    It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Rainman said in Depression II:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                      Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                      Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                      For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                      Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                      This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                      It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

                                      I lived a few miles away, but I had close friends who lived in the village, and we used to go into the grounds over the weekend - it had huge grounds, and at one point had housed over 3500 patients, and people were allowed to wander about. There was a cricket pitch, a big pond, public cafe, and lots of woodland.

                                      The most memorable thing we did was discover that there was a large network of tunnels under the site, which carried the electricity, steam, water etc. and we used to go into them and explore. I secretly found them absolutely terrifying, but wasn't going to admit it.

                                      The village really lived in close contact with the hospital - patients were allowed to leave and visit the shops and what-have-you.

                                      It was a very sad place. I sometimes wonder how all the former patients coped when they closed it down. Not well, I fear. Some of them had been there for decades.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes Very interesting and very interesting pictures.

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