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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #6

    Oh, YOU did the study I guess! 😆

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.

      But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #7

      @Mik said in Depression II:

      I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.

      But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.

      Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @Mik said in Depression II:

        I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.

        But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.

        Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #8

        @Horace said in Depression II:

        @Mik said in Depression II:

        I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.

        But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.

        Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.

        It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care that aren’t necessarily looking for help but to be affirmed in their own insecurities. Once they are in positions of authority, confirmation bias takes over and a sane world suffers the consequences.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Horace said in Depression II:

          @Mik said in Depression II:

          I grew up in the country and at least half my friends and relatives live there. That study is just flat wrong.

          But I suspect the outcome was predetermined. Confirmation bias.

          Psychology is a compromised science where many of its potential findings are off limits. If we hear of a psychological study, we are guaranteed that the results have been vetted for social acceptability.

          It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care that aren’t necessarily looking for help but to be affirmed in their own insecurities. Once they are in positions of authority, confirmation bias takes over and a sane world suffers the consequences.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #9

          @LuFins-Dad said in Depression II:

          It attracts the people most in need of psychiatric care

          You haven't spent much time in university maths and physics departments, have you?

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #10

            It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

            There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

              Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

              For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

              Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

                There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

                MikM Offline
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                Mik
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                @Jolly said in Depression II:

                It fell out of fashion, but the placement of psych patients in pastoral settings seems to be making a comeback.

                There is a reason for that - nature can be calming.

                Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of these folks benefit from less stimulation.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @Mik said in Depression II:

                    A classmate of mine went through electroshock. He was essentially a zombie afterward. It erased him.

                    I had a school friend who ended up in the hospital I linked to above. I ran into him years later and it was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen. He was hardly there, and I think they may have done ECT on him. It was just awful, and he had been such a nice, bright kid, but then he got into dope.

                    I was only joking

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                      Horace
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                      #15

                      I dug a big hole and planted a tree yesterday. Today, my back is infused with the happy spirit of rural living.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Jolly
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                        #16

                        Work will set you free.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Work will set you free.

                          MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in Depression II:

                          Work will set you free.

                          It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @Jolly said in Depression II:

                            Work will set you free.

                            It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

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                            @Mik said in Depression II:

                            @Jolly said in Depression II:

                            Work will set you free.

                            It’s better in the original German. Arbeit macht frei.

                            That quote is slightly, err, "problematic".

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                              Oh?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Horace
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                                #20

                                I believe it was a motto of the 'labor' camps.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  It's on the gates of Auschwitz

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    #22

                                    Well that escalated quickly.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
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                                      #23

                                      Yes, I knew that. So did Jolly.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
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                                        Hence, the quote.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                          Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                          For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                          Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                          RainmanR Offline
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                                          Rainman
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Depression II:

                                          Everybody's written off the study, but I can imagine some people feeling extremely isolated living in a rural area.

                                          Funnily enough, I grew up with a bunch of folk who lived in a farming community, and there was an enormous Victorian era mental hospital right next to the village, it was the main employer in the area. It's gone now, partially due to a huge scandal. The matron was our next door neighbour, and then suddenly she vanished.

                                          For anybody who's interested -one of my childhood haunts explored!

                                          Anyway, it's possible there's some truth to the study.

                                          This is a bump for Phibes' link. Fascinating. And sad.
                                          It must have been quite something to grow up near that huge campus. Did you think it haunted, when you were a kid? I have no doubt it's haunted, in a very classic Victorian Hitchcock way.

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