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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #44

    The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #45

      @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

      The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

      That's not even Disney, they just bought the rights.

      Please love yourself.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

        I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

        Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

        And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

        You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

        MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by Mik
        #46

        @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

        I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

        Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

        And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

        You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

        Encanto sucked

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

          I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

          Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

          And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

          You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

          Encanto sucked

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
          Aqua LetiferA Offline
          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #47

          @Mik said in Woke Disney:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

          I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

          Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

          And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

          You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

          Encanto sucked

          I'm in the middle on it. It had some good elements, but I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.

          Please love yourself.

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #48

            The visuals were great. The story was awful.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              The visuals were great. The story was awful.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
              #49

              @Mik said in Woke Disney:

              The visuals were great. The story was awful.

              Oh but the songs though, Mik, the SONGS!

              Lemme tell you something about those fucking songs. Miranda would be unstoppable if he had any discipline. I said what I said.

              Hamilton can go fuck itself, too.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #50

                I went way humming the scenery, not the songs.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Frankly, I don’t mind lost girls, Asian/Indian Peters, or black Tinkerbrlls. The reason for the changes does bother me.

                  Stop pandering.

                  CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #51

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                  The reason for the changes does bother me.

                  Yes, yes that is the thing.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #52

                    Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #53

                      I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #54

                        @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                        Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

                        That's part of what I mean about the lack of discipline.

                        That and way too many lines that sound good and make absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. It ATCQ, Faithless, Jurassic 5, J Dilla, De La Soul and even Ren Gill of all people can write clever lyrics without resorting to no-context non-sequiturs, then what the fuck is holding Miranda back?

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                          Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                          And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

                          You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

                          Encanto sucked

                          I'm in the middle on it. It had some good elements, but I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.

                          Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #55

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.

                          Beats the Menendez Solution.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • MikM Mik

                            I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #56

                            @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                            I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                            I met a transgender named Maria...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                              I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                              I met a transgender named Maria...

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #57

                              @Jolly said in Woke Disney:

                              @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                              I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                              I met a transgender named Maria...

                              Well, it's based on Romeo and Juliet, and Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke

                              I was only joking

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                                I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                                I met a transgender named Maria...

                                MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #58

                                @Jolly said in Woke Disney:

                                @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                                I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                                I met a transgender named Maria...

                                Maria...I just met a boy named Maria....

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Jolly said in Woke Disney:

                                  @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                                  I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                                  I met a transgender named Maria...

                                  Well, it's based on Romeo and Juliet, and Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke

                                  AxtremusA Offline
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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #59

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                                  ... Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke

                                  Similar history with Chinese classical opera at one point. Some opera companies were all-male (so female roles were played by male actors) and considered having a female in the company "shameful." :man-shrugging:

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #60

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #61

                                      @George-K said in Woke Disney:

                                      I’m surprised that hasn’t caused more outrage… I think I would wind becoming a viral sensation if I had taken my little girl to get princessed up and had this guy guy come out in a dress…

                                      I thought “passing” was supposed to be an important goal?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #62

                                        Imagine going back in time 60 years and showing Walt that video…

                                        The Brad

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #63

                                          Somewhat related... yesterday at the pool there were 3 kids, don't know... maybe ages 9 or 10. One kid kept saying, and what I presume was a joke, "hey you're misgendering me! you're misgendering me!". She was clearly a girl, but still... sad to hear such a phrase from such a young kid.

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