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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

    Fucking hell.

    You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

    Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

    Ok, Ax.

    So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?

    Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #35

    @Axtremus said in Woke Disney:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

    Fucking hell.

    You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

    Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

    Ok, Ax.

    So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?

    I've been called much worse, and by better people.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Axtremus said in Woke Disney:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

      Fucking hell.

      You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

      Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

      Ok, Ax.

      So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?

      I've been called much worse, and by better people.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #36

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

      @Axtremus said in Woke Disney:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

      Fucking hell.

      You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

      Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

      Ok, Ax.

      So, @Doctor-Phibes, how does it feel to be mistaken for Ax?

      I've been called much worse, and by better people.

      Ok, Trump.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
        Doctor PhibesD Online
        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by
        #37

        Horace - putting the colon into the colony.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

          Walt Disney covered them all in saccharine to make them more "family friendly", and foisted modern American moral and cultural values on us along with them.

          The only difference now is that it's going in a direction that some people don't like.

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #38

          @Doctor-Phibes

          Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

          Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.

          Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @Doctor-Phibes

            Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

            Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.

            Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #39

            @Renauda said in Woke Disney:

            @Doctor-Phibes

            Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

            Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.

            Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.

            Heck, you really wanna freak 'em out, have 'em watch Return to Oz or The Adventures of Mark Twain. They make Disney cartoons seem like Barney by comparison.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

              I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

              Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

              And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

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              LuFins Dad
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              #40

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

              I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

              Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

              And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

              You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

              The Brad

              MikM 1 Reply Last reply
              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                Fucking hell.

                You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #41

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                Fucking hell.

                You're right. The idea that you could get anywhere near to hitting a flying child with a cannonball is frankly laughable.

                Unless of course their balls were covered in pixie dust.

                Wait, which balls? Maybe that’s why all the Lost Boys are Girls? The guys didn’t make it?

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
                  LuFins DadL Offline
                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #42

                  Frankly, I don’t mind lost girls, Asian/Indian Peters, or black Tinkerbrlls. The reason for the changes does bother me.

                  Stop pandering.

                  The Brad

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Renauda said in Woke Disney:

                    @Doctor-Phibes

                    Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.

                    Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.

                    Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.

                    Heck, you really wanna freak 'em out, have 'em watch Return to Oz or The Adventures of Mark Twain. They make Disney cartoons seem like Barney by comparison.

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                    RenaudaR Offline
                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #43

                    @Aqua-Letifer

                    He is into classic comedies. Laurel & Hardy, 3 Stooges, Marx Brothers, Abbott and Costello and most recently, Jack Benny. Also really into Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and strangely enough, Keeping Up Appearances and, Time Goes By.

                    He has just turned 16.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #44

                      The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #45

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                        The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…

                        That's not even Disney, they just bought the rights.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                          Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                          And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

                          You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

                          MikM Offline
                          MikM Offline
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #46

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                          I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                          Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                          And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

                          You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

                          Encanto sucked

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                          Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                          • MikM Mik

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                            I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                            Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                            And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

                            You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

                            Encanto sucked

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #47

                            @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:

                            I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.

                            Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.

                            And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.

                            You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.

                            Encanto sucked

                            I'm in the middle on it. It had some good elements, but I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • MikM Offline
                              MikM Offline
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #48

                              The visuals were great. The story was awful.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                The visuals were great. The story was awful.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                                #49

                                @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                                The visuals were great. The story was awful.

                                Oh but the songs though, Mik, the SONGS!

                                Lemme tell you something about those fucking songs. Miranda would be unstoppable if he had any discipline. I said what I said.

                                Hamilton can go fuck itself, too.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  MikM Offline
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #50

                                  I went way humming the scenery, not the songs.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Frankly, I don’t mind lost girls, Asian/Indian Peters, or black Tinkerbrlls. The reason for the changes does bother me.

                                    Stop pandering.

                                    CopperC Online
                                    CopperC Online
                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #51

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:

                                    The reason for the changes does bother me.

                                    Yes, yes that is the thing.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #52

                                      Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        MikM Offline
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #53

                                        I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #54

                                          @Mik said in Woke Disney:

                                          Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?

                                          That's part of what I mean about the lack of discipline.

                                          That and way too many lines that sound good and make absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. It ATCQ, Faithless, Jurassic 5, J Dilla, De La Soul and even Ren Gill of all people can write clever lyrics without resorting to no-context non-sequiturs, then what the fuck is holding Miranda back?

                                          Please love yourself.

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