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@Renauda said in Woke Disney:
Almost all of the classic fairy tales have a serious and in some cases dark and disturbing side to them.
Dark and disturbing is putting it mildly. Some are plain sinister and morbid. Am sure they kept many a child awake at night with the terrors.
Our son from at least four years old would refuse to watch any of the Disney animated productions. Never said why other than he didn’t like them.
Heck, you really wanna freak 'em out, have 'em watch Return to Oz or The Adventures of Mark Twain. They make Disney cartoons seem like Barney by comparison.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 01:33 last edited byHe is into classic comedies. Laurel & Hardy, 3 Stooges, Marx Brothers, Abbott and Costello and most recently, Jack Benny. Also really into Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and strangely enough, Keeping Up Appearances and, Time Goes By.
He has just turned 16.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 01:37 last edited by
The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…
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The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 02:12 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
The only decent thing on Disney these days is Bluey…
That's not even Disney, they just bought the rights.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 02:50 last edited by Mik 3 Mar 2023, 02:50@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
Encanto sucked
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@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
Encanto sucked
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 02:53 last edited by@Mik said in Woke Disney:
@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
Encanto sucked
I'm in the middle on it. It had some good elements, but I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.
Please love yourself.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 02:56 last edited by
The visuals were great. The story was awful.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 03:02 last edited by Aqua Letifer 3 Mar 2023, 03:02
@Mik said in Woke Disney:
The visuals were great. The story was awful.
Oh but the songs though, Mik, the SONGS!
Lemme tell you something about those fucking songs. Miranda would be unstoppable if he had any discipline. I said what I said.
Hamilton can go fuck itself, too.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 03:03 last edited by
I went way humming the scenery, not the songs.
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Frankly, I don’t mind lost girls, Asian/Indian Peters, or black Tinkerbrlls. The reason for the changes does bother me.
Stop pandering.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 03:05 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
The reason for the changes does bother me.
Yes, yes that is the thing.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 03:06 last edited by
Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?
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Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 03:13 last edited by@Mik said in Woke Disney:
Hamilton was In The Heights set to American history. I greatly respect both shows, OK, fine. So what next? Do you repeat the hip hop musical format ad nauseum?
That's part of what I mean about the lack of discipline.
That and way too many lines that sound good and make absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. It ATCQ, Faithless, Jurassic 5, J Dilla, De La Soul and even Ren Gill of all people can write clever lyrics without resorting to no-context non-sequiturs, then what the fuck is holding Miranda back?
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@Mik said in Woke Disney:
@LuFins-Dad said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I freaking love Peter Pan, it's a brilliant story. And it can totally work with Pan being Indian, black, whatever. But you don't just slap an ethnic kid in the role and say, "we've improved the story!" That's fucking obscene.
Disney has been "improving" classic children's fiction ever since they started making movies.
And they used to do a great job of it. I'm friends with a guy who drew a lot of the stuff for Aladdin. The Disney of today can't hold a candle to what they had before, and their approach to storytelling has radically changed for the worse since the late 90s.
You know, I will disagree a little with that. Encanto may have been the best Disney movie that I have seen in quite a while. Everything else has been Jack shit.
Encanto sucked
I'm in the middle on it. It had some good elements, but I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 12:34 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Woke Disney:
I'm getting a little tired of the Millennial hero story of making their parents apologize for being meanies.
Beats the Menendez Solution.
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wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:35 last edited by
@Mik said in Woke Disney:
I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.
I met a transgender named Maria...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Mik said in Woke Disney:
I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.
I met a transgender named Maria...
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:37 last edited by@Jolly said in Woke Disney:
@Mik said in Woke Disney:
I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.
I met a transgender named Maria...
Well, it's based on Romeo and Juliet, and Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke
I was only joking
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@Mik said in Woke Disney:
I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.
I met a transgender named Maria...
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Woke Disney:
@Mik said in Woke Disney:
I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.
I met a transgender named Maria...
Maria...I just met a boy named Maria....
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@Jolly said in Woke Disney:
@Mik said in Woke Disney:
I'm just afraid they will fuck with West Side Story even more than Spielberg did.
I met a transgender named Maria...
Well, it's based on Romeo and Juliet, and Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke
wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 23:18 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Woke Disney:
... Shakespeare's plays frequently got pretty gender-fluid due to the shortage of female actors. There'd often be a male actor impersonating a female impersonating a male - it's a running joke
Similar history with Chinese classical opera at one point. Some opera companies were all-male (so female roles were played by male actors) and considered having a female in the company "shameful." :man-shrugging:
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@George-K said in Woke Disney:
I’m surprised that hasn’t caused more outrage… I think I would wind becoming a viral sensation if I had taken my little girl to get princessed up and had this guy guy come out in a dress…
I thought “passing” was supposed to be an important goal?
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wrote on 30 May 2023, 12:58 last edited by
Imagine going back in time 60 years and showing Walt that video…
