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How well is your community doing on social distancing?

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    Mik
    wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 18:30 last edited by
    #11

    Yeah, we started the 9th.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 20:00 last edited by
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      We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

      The Brad

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        7 Apr 2020, 20:00

        We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

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        Copper
        wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 20:08 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

        We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

        It's rigged!

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:07 last edited by
          #14

          LD - it’s all a comparison to before so even if people are driving locally there are thousands that aren’t commuting to DC every day.

          I’m sure that gives us our good numbers.

          Rachel and I go out every day for a walk. We often try new spots that require us to drive 2-7 miles each way.

          But she’s not commuting to Manhattan 5 days a week.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:09 last edited by
            #15

            Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

            Please love yourself.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:56 last edited by
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              My town: B-. My county: D-.

              Swell.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                7 Apr 2020, 22:09

                Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

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                Loki
                wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 00:01 last edited by
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                @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                How this work, what would we track?

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                • L Loki
                  8 Apr 2020, 00:01

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                  Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                  How this work, what would we track?

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 00:04 last edited by
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                  @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                  And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    brenda
                    wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 00:54 last edited by
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                    My county gets a B- , and the closest county gets a B. Kind of surprised at both of those, but it's a good surprise.

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                      8 Apr 2020, 00:04

                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                      I assume you are not serious.

                      We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                      Very easily isn't the problem.

                      Rights and due process are part of the picture.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:50 last edited by
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                        And that’s the battle that will play out this summer as we decide whether we’ll be a ‘test and trace’ country or a ‘successive wave’ country. At least until vaccine.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          8 Apr 2020, 01:46

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                          I assume you are not serious.

                          We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                          Very easily isn't the problem.

                          Rights and due process are part of the picture.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:50 last edited by
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                          @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                          I assume you are not serious.

                          We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                          Very easily isn't the problem.

                          Rights and due process are part of the picture.

                          No, of course I was just joking. I think we should let the market decide and prioritize safety with who's actually contributing to the economy right now. If you're not a current contributor then what does society owe you?

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            8 Apr 2020, 01:50

                            @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                            And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                            I assume you are not serious.

                            We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                            Very easily isn't the problem.

                            Rights and due process are part of the picture.

                            No, of course I was just joking. I think we should let the market decide and prioritize safety with who's actually contributing to the economy right now. If you're not a current contributor then what does society owe you?

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:03 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            what does society owe you?

                            Society? Nothing.

                            The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

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                            • C Copper
                              8 Apr 2020, 02:03

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              what does society owe you?

                              Society? Nothing.

                              The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:07 last edited by
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                              @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              what does society owe you?

                              Society? Nothing.

                              The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

                              Well if people want to be selfish moochers that's their perogative, but it's thinking like that that drags down the economy.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                8 Apr 2020, 00:04

                                @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

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                                  kluurs
                                  wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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                                  My town is pretty OCD - so A. We have little traffic. People are out walking their dogs, some running. I run on the street and keep about 20 feet from anyone either direction. What's amusing to me is that is not enough for some folks. They will move across the street so we have 60-80 feet of distance. Go figure.

                                  Driving through Chicago late at night - and got an emergency text saying - "you shouldn't be here" - kind of a Big Brother feeling to that.

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                                  • L Loki
                                    8 Apr 2020, 02:13

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                    And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                    I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:17 last edited by
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                                    @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                    And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                    I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                    If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • A Aqua Letifer
                                      8 Apr 2020, 02:17

                                      @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                      I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                      If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:18 last edited by
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                      I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                      If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                      It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

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                                      • L Loki
                                        8 Apr 2020, 02:18

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                        And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                        I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                        If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                        It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:20 last edited by
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                                        @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                        And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                        I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                        If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                        It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

                                        My guess would be that the body count would be the only material decider of our collective opinion.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • A Aqua Letifer
                                          8 Apr 2020, 02:20

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                          I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                          If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                          It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

                                          My guess would be that the body count would be the only material decider of our collective opinion.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:22 last edited by
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                          I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                          If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                          It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

                                          My guess would be that the body count would be the only material decider of our collective opinion.

                                          I’m not sure about that. As the virus peaks wait for the next wave about jobs. This storm is going to be a lot shorter than the misery that follows. The layoffs and furloughs have only just begun.

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