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How well is your community doing on social distancing?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 16:14 last edited by
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    @Copper

    I think mostly you see that more dense areas are at greater risk and are taking it more seriously. Those happen to be more democratic.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 16:16 last edited by
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      Look at the county data. It took 2 weeks after people started social distancing before they even started to report an influx in cases. In those two weeks, the flu conspiracy nutters had a point, didn't they? No cases at all!

      Then look what happened after. Travel was reduced overall, but we still see a spike in cases. Because there are plenty of people who are still not doing what they're supposed to.

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      Please love yourself.

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        Mik
        wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 18:18 last edited by Mik 4 Jul 2020, 18:20
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        C- in my county. This surprises me, based on what little I see. It may be because of a lot of healthcare workers.

        Surprises me even more because MFR and i are clearly A++. We have had an average of one trip out every 9 days, and that only to pick up groceries where they bring them to your car for you.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          7 Apr 2020, 18:18

          C- in my county. This surprises me, based on what little I see. It may be because of a lot of healthcare workers.

          Surprises me even more because MFR and i are clearly A++. We have had an average of one trip out every 9 days, and that only to pick up groceries where they bring them to your car for you.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 18:27 last edited by
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          @Mik same. We've been on home lockdown since the 14th.

          Please love yourself.

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            Mik
            wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 18:30 last edited by
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            Yeah, we started the 9th.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 20:00 last edited by
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              We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

              The Brad

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                7 Apr 2020, 20:00

                We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

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                Copper
                wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 20:08 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

                It's rigged!

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:07 last edited by
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                  LD - it’s all a comparison to before so even if people are driving locally there are thousands that aren’t commuting to DC every day.

                  I’m sure that gives us our good numbers.

                  Rachel and I go out every day for a walk. We often try new spots that require us to drive 2-7 miles each way.

                  But she’s not commuting to Manhattan 5 days a week.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:09 last edited by
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                    Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:56 last edited by
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                      My town: B-. My county: D-.

                      Swell.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        7 Apr 2020, 22:09

                        Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 00:01 last edited by
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                        Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                        How this work, what would we track?

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                          8 Apr 2020, 00:01

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                          How this work, what would we track?

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 00:04 last edited by
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                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            brenda
                            wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 00:54 last edited by
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                            My county gets a B- , and the closest county gets a B. Kind of surprised at both of those, but it's a good surprise.

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                              8 Apr 2020, 00:04

                              @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                              And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                              And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                              I assume you are not serious.

                              We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                              Very easily isn't the problem.

                              Rights and due process are part of the picture.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:50 last edited by
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                                And that’s the battle that will play out this summer as we decide whether we’ll be a ‘test and trace’ country or a ‘successive wave’ country. At least until vaccine.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  8 Apr 2020, 01:46

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                  @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                  And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                  I assume you are not serious.

                                  We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                                  Very easily isn't the problem.

                                  Rights and due process are part of the picture.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:50 last edited by
                                  #22

                                  @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                  @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                  And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                  I assume you are not serious.

                                  We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                                  Very easily isn't the problem.

                                  Rights and due process are part of the picture.

                                  No, of course I was just joking. I think we should let the market decide and prioritize safety with who's actually contributing to the economy right now. If you're not a current contributor then what does society owe you?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    8 Apr 2020, 01:50

                                    @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                    And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                    I assume you are not serious.

                                    We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                                    Very easily isn't the problem.

                                    Rights and due process are part of the picture.

                                    No, of course I was just joking. I think we should let the market decide and prioritize safety with who's actually contributing to the economy right now. If you're not a current contributor then what does society owe you?

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:03 last edited by
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    what does society owe you?

                                    Society? Nothing.

                                    The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

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                                    • C Copper
                                      8 Apr 2020, 02:03

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      what does society owe you?

                                      Society? Nothing.

                                      The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:07 last edited by
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                                      @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      what does society owe you?

                                      Society? Nothing.

                                      The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

                                      Well if people want to be selfish moochers that's their perogative, but it's thinking like that that drags down the economy.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        8 Apr 2020, 00:04

                                        @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                        And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                        And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                        I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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                                          My town is pretty OCD - so A. We have little traffic. People are out walking their dogs, some running. I run on the street and keep about 20 feet from anyone either direction. What's amusing to me is that is not enough for some folks. They will move across the street so we have 60-80 feet of distance. Go figure.

                                          Driving through Chicago late at night - and got an emergency text saying - "you shouldn't be here" - kind of a Big Brother feeling to that.

                                          OptimisticO 1 Reply Last reply 8 Apr 2020, 15:03
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