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How well is your community doing on social distancing?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Yeah, we started the 9th.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      #12

      We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

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        @LuFins-Dad said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

        We’ve got a B, which is surprising. I see cars everywhere

        It's rigged!

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #14

          LD - it’s all a comparison to before so even if people are driving locally there are thousands that aren’t commuting to DC every day.

          I’m sure that gives us our good numbers.

          Rachel and I go out every day for a walk. We often try new spots that require us to drive 2-7 miles each way.

          But she’s not commuting to Manhattan 5 days a week.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            #15

            Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

            Please love yourself.

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              #16

              My town: B-. My county: D-.

              Swell.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                How this work, what would we track?

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                • L Loki

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                  Why can't we employ the GPS tracking on our phone in the same way Taiwan is? I mean, the NSA already is, actively. Why the hell not turn that data into something useful for public health?

                  How this work, what would we track?

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                  @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                  And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    My county gets a B- , and the closest county gets a B. Kind of surprised at both of those, but it's a good surprise.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                      I assume you are not serious.

                      We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                      Very easily isn't the problem.

                      Rights and due process are part of the picture.

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                        And that’s the battle that will play out this summer as we decide whether we’ll be a ‘test and trace’ country or a ‘successive wave’ country. At least until vaccine.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                          I assume you are not serious.

                          We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                          Very easily isn't the problem.

                          Rights and due process are part of the picture.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                          I assume you are not serious.

                          We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                          Very easily isn't the problem.

                          Rights and due process are part of the picture.

                          No, of course I was just joking. I think we should let the market decide and prioritize safety with who's actually contributing to the economy right now. If you're not a current contributor then what does society owe you?

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                            And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                            I assume you are not serious.

                            We could ship everyone tested positive to a leper colony, very easily.

                            Very easily isn't the problem.

                            Rights and due process are part of the picture.

                            No, of course I was just joking. I think we should let the market decide and prioritize safety with who's actually contributing to the economy right now. If you're not a current contributor then what does society owe you?

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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                            what does society owe you?

                            Society? Nothing.

                            The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              what does society owe you?

                              Society? Nothing.

                              The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Copper said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                              what does society owe you?

                              Society? Nothing.

                              The federal government? Rights enumerated elsewhere, you can look them up.

                              Well if people want to be selfish moochers that's their perogative, but it's thinking like that that drags down the economy.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

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                                #25

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

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                                • kluursK Online
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                                  My town is pretty OCD - so A. We have little traffic. People are out walking their dogs, some running. I run on the street and keep about 20 feet from anyone either direction. What's amusing to me is that is not enough for some folks. They will move across the street so we have 60-80 feet of distance. Go figure.

                                  Driving through Chicago late at night - and got an emergency text saying - "you shouldn't be here" - kind of a Big Brother feeling to that.

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                                  • L Loki

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                    And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                    I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                    @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                    And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                    I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                    If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                      I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                      If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                      @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                      And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                      I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                      If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                      It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

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                                      • L Loki

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                        And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                        I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                        If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                        It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                        @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                        And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                        I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                        If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                        It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

                                        My guess would be that the body count would be the only material decider of our collective opinion.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                          I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                          If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                          It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

                                          My guess would be that the body count would be the only material decider of our collective opinion.

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in How well is your community doing on social distancing?:

                                          @Loki The folks who test positive should all have their contacts notified. We already do that but I understand that's a voluntary process. It shouldn't be voluntary.

                                          And when you're out, you should be notified via alert message when you get within X feet of someone who has Y degrees of known social separation away from someone who tested positive. We can already do this, very easily.

                                          I just read a second person account of someone who’s Mom went back to South Korea and the GPS tracking app is exactly what she got along with other materials to survive the quarantine. It is a fascinating question as to whether Americans would agree to that. Just thinking about the Patriot Act for example.

                                          If anyone had ever bothered to read the documents that Snowden leaked, it would be a lot more common knowledge that that level of surveillance is not only going on right now, but it's been automated. If we're already doing it then what's the problem?

                                          It’s a great thought experiment to see who would agree to it.

                                          My guess would be that the body count would be the only material decider of our collective opinion.

                                          I’m not sure about that. As the virus peaks wait for the next wave about jobs. This storm is going to be a lot shorter than the misery that follows. The layoffs and furloughs have only just begun.

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