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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    #119

    Imagine a future in which the majority of text on the internet was produced by ChatGPT et al - which is then fed into ChatGPT et al as training data.

    What would this process converge to?

    I'd suggest that some weird variant of the 2nd thermodynamic law implies that the chat bots will become more stupid with each iteration. They cannot produce text that contains new information or patterns that they don't already know. It's an endless loop of confirmation bias at work.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

      The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

      The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #120

      @Klaus said in ChatGPT:

      @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

      The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

      The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

      Not necessarily. There are plenty of other ways to introduce bias in an AI model.

      Please love yourself.

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
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        #121

        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/george-r-r-martin-joins-authors-suing-openai-over-copyright-infringement/

        ... popular authors including John Grisham, Jonathan Franzen, George R.R. Martin, Jodi Picoult, and George Saunders joined the Authors Guild in suing OpenAI, alleging that training the company's large language models (LLMs) used to power AI tools like ChatGPT on pirated versions of their books violates copyright laws and is "systematic theft on a mass scale."

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          #122

          https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/02/tom-hanks-dental-ad-ai-version-fake

          Tom Hanks says AI version of him used in dental plan ad without his consent

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #123

            Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

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            • 89th8 89th

              Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #124

              @89th said in ChatGPT:

              Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

              One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #125

                Or use NFTs

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                • 89th8 89th

                  Or use NFTs

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #126

                  @89th said in ChatGPT:

                  Or use NFTs

                  πŸ˜„

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @89th said in ChatGPT:

                    Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                    One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #127

                    @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                    That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                    A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                    I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                      That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                      A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                      I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #128

                      @taiwan_girl said in ChatGPT:

                      @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                      That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                      A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                      I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

                      Nathan Tardiff does the same thing with an $8 bottle. Has been for years. Each one has unique markers that don't break down over time.

                      He makes a red that literally binds to the celluloid cells of the paper. It's pretty damn impossible to remove the ink.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Axtremus
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                        #129

                        She took our jobs!

                        https://fortune.com/europe/2023/11/23/spanish-influencer-agency-earned-11000-ai-model-posers/

                        Spanish modeling/influencer agency created AI generated model to do the jobs of models and social media influencers, because they find real life influencers are too costly and too unreliable to work with.

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                          Axtremus
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                          #130

                          Go to the 5:15 mark for the ChatGPT bit:

                          Link to video

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                            #131

                            https://gizmodo.com/google-search-ai-overview-giant-hallucination-1851499031

                            Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination

                            Article with many examples showing failures in AI generate β€œsummaries” provided by Google in response to search queries.

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                              Axtremus
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                              #132

                              Link to video

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #133

                                No idea if ChatGPT or some other generative AI is involved.

                                Link to video

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                                  Axtremus
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                                  #134

                                  Good educational introduction to Large Language Model (LLM):

                                  Link to video

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                                    #135

                                    Those who must not be named:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/12/certain-names-make-chatgpt-grind-to-a-halt-and-we-know-why/

                                    The chat-breaking behavior occurs consistently when users mention these names in any context, and it results from a hard-coded filter that puts the brakes on the AI model's output before returning it to the user.
                                    ...
                                    Here's a list of ChatGPT-breaking names found so far through a communal effort taking place on social media and Reddit. ...

                                    • Brian Hood
                                    • Johnathan Turley
                                    • Johnathan Zittrain
                                    • David Faber
                                    • Guido Scorza
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                                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #136

                                      Too lazy to study, but who are those people?

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                                      • W Offline
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                                        Wim
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #137

                                        Ah well, privacy is not a matter of concern to chatgpt 😁

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                                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #138

                                          Interesting. From the article:

                                          As for Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University Law School professor and Fox News contributor, 404 Media notes that he wrote about ChatGPT's earlier mishandling of his name in April 2023. The model had fabricated false claims about him, including a non-existent sexual harassment scandal that cited a Washington Post article that never existed. Turley told 404 Media he has not filed lawsuits against OpenAI and said the company never contacted him about the issue.

                                          I tried to back them into the name. You can see it started to generate a response but then stopped.

                                          IMG_1683.png

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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