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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    Follow-up:

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/lawyers-have-real-bad-day-in-court-after-citing-fake-cases-made-up-by-chatgpt/

    A federal judge tossed a lawsuit and issued a $5,000 fine to the plaintiff's lawyers after they used ChatGPT to research court filings that cited six fake cases invented by the artificial intelligence tool made by OpenAI. …
    … More embarrassingly for the lawyers, they are required to send letters to six real judges who were "falsely identified as the author of the fake" opinions cited in their legal filings. …

    $5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.

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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #111

    @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

    $5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.

    Gotta protect your own, dont'cha know.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #112

      https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned

        markM Offline
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        mark
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        #113

        @taiwan_girl said in ChatGPT:

        https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned

        Silly human race.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #114

          ChatGPT leans liberal, new research shows

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/16/chatgpt-ai-political-bias-research/

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #115

            The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • CopperC Online
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              Copper
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              #116

              It is young

              It will grow up

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #117

                A young AI that isn’t a little liberal has no heart. A mature AI that isn’t conservative has no brain…

                The Brad

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                  KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #118

                  @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

                  The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                  The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #119

                    Imagine a future in which the majority of text on the internet was produced by ChatGPT et al - which is then fed into ChatGPT et al as training data.

                    What would this process converge to?

                    I'd suggest that some weird variant of the 2nd thermodynamic law implies that the chat bots will become more stupid with each iteration. They cannot produce text that contains new information or patterns that they don't already know. It's an endless loop of confirmation bias at work.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

                      The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                      The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #120

                      @Klaus said in ChatGPT:

                      @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

                      The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                      The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

                      Not necessarily. There are plenty of other ways to introduce bias in an AI model.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
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                        #121

                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/george-r-r-martin-joins-authors-suing-openai-over-copyright-infringement/

                        ... popular authors including John Grisham, Jonathan Franzen, George R.R. Martin, Jodi Picoult, and George Saunders joined the Authors Guild in suing OpenAI, alleging that training the company's large language models (LLMs) used to power AI tools like ChatGPT on pirated versions of their books violates copyright laws and is "systematic theft on a mass scale."

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                        • AxtremusA Away
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                          Axtremus
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                          #122

                          https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/02/tom-hanks-dental-ad-ai-version-fake

                          Tom Hanks says AI version of him used in dental plan ad without his consent

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            #123

                            Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #124

                              @89th said in ChatGPT:

                              Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                              One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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                                Or use NFTs

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  Or use NFTs

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #126

                                  @89th said in ChatGPT:

                                  Or use NFTs

                                  😄

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @89th said in ChatGPT:

                                    Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                                    One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #127

                                    @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                                    That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                                    A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                                    I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                                      That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                                      A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                                      I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #128

                                      @taiwan_girl said in ChatGPT:

                                      @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                                      That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

                                      A while ago, I read about a company that was promoting pens that contained DNA within the ink to prove the signature was valid.

                                      I believe that their original idea was to market it to people who were famous enough to sell their autographs or things like that.

                                      Nathan Tardiff does the same thing with an $8 bottle. Has been for years. Each one has unique markers that don't break down over time.

                                      He makes a red that literally binds to the celluloid cells of the paper. It's pretty damn impossible to remove the ink.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #129

                                        She took our jobs!

                                        https://fortune.com/europe/2023/11/23/spanish-influencer-agency-earned-11000-ai-model-posers/

                                        Spanish modeling/influencer agency created AI generated model to do the jobs of models and social media influencers, because they find real life influencers are too costly and too unreliable to work with.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #130

                                          Go to the 5:15 mark for the ChatGPT bit:

                                          Link to video

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