My next piano??

[George K]

Pianoteq for iOS is out. You can use your existing license to activate it.

https://www.pianoteq.fr

Not sure if it'll gain much use in my house. Mrs. George's old MacBook Air is sitting on my Roland, and that's the only thing that laptop is used for.

[mark]

Resurrecting this thread.

Casually shopping for a digital piano.

Don't need or want a cabinet. Stage/Slab is fine and I found a Yamaha I think I can live with. P-515 or P525. They both have an optional very sturdy stand and three pedal option.

Action feels good and the entire unit feels sturdy and well built.

I can get a demo B-stock 515 for $1,399 and the 525 for $1,499. Plus $349 for the upgraded stand and pedals. So $1750/$1850 plus IL sales tax.

I currently have a CVP-105 that still works but I do not like the action. Was offered $100 trade lol. I can actually live with that as I do not want to reassemble it or invite strangers into my home just to get a couple hundred more for it.

What say all you experts here?

[George K]

Paraphrasing Duke Ellington: "If it feels good, it IS good."

If you like the action, that's the first step. Ignore the sound, you can always update with a cheapo laptop, PianoTeq and some speakers.

The Roland HP704 is down to $2900 at GuitarCenter. If you're happy with the lack of a cabinet, you can get the same mechanism and add a stand for a bit less.

[George K]

BTW, the Yamahas I looked at were nice, but just didn't "move" me.

The 10 year in-home Roland warranty was another factor. It expires when I'm 83 years old, so there's that.

[Horace]

I won't go back from my PianoTeq Petrof Mistral. I guess, from there it's a matter of finding an action you like. I have a low end but good one with my Roland FP-10.

[kluurs]

I did a lot of auditioning - but all of it was on cabinet focused instruments - ended up with the HP704 - which I've now had for about 18 months. I went cheaper prior with a high end Casio - but the action wasn't suitable. The 10 year warranty was a big plus for the Roland. George and I are fussy consumers, but LD is the expert.

[Horace]

LD thinks the quality of a performance of classical piano music depends on how well the performer adheres to the score.

[George K]

@Horace said in My next piano??:

Roland FP-10

Is that the same action as the 704?

[Horace]

@George-K said in My next piano??:

@Horace said in My next piano??:

Roland FP-10

Is that the same action as the 704?

No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

[George K]

@Horace said in My next piano??:

I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

Right - if you're not offended, it'll be "good enough."

Also, if you have a "real" piano...well, that's sort of the point. @mark has a very nice Estonia (which I've touched), so your point is well-taken.

[LuFins Dad]

@Horace said in My next piano??:

@George-K said in My next piano??:

@Horace said in My next piano??:

Roland FP-10

Is that the same action as the 704?

No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

PHA4 is good enough. You still need an acoustic.

[kluurs]

There’s an FP10 that was bought in January that they’re selling for $450 on FB Marketplace

[Copper]

EBay, good prices on New and Open Box

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fp-10&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3

[Horace]

yeah Roland made a deal with Costco, they were available on the floor at $550 after discounts. The ACR is the branded one Costco bulk purchased. FP-10 hardware with slightly modified firmware, different voices I think.

[kluurs]

Better deal
https://www.facebook.com/share/WmVVguR1qP58WFAu/?mibextid=79PoIi

[mark]

I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

[mark]

I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon.

[kluurs]

@mark said in My next piano??:

I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon.

Come on down.

[Jolly]

Wish we could have sampled some Rolands, but nobody in the area had one that met our criteria.

Just submitted the paperwork for three of these:

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/clp-745/index.html

[mark]

Those are sweet Yamaha models.

I don't want to go that high end.