My next piano??
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Resurrecting this thread.
Casually shopping for a digital piano.
Don't need or want a cabinet. Stage/Slab is fine and I found a Yamaha I think I can live with. P-515 or P525. They both have an optional very sturdy stand and three pedal option.
Action feels good and the entire unit feels sturdy and well built.
I can get a demo B-stock 515 for $1,399 and the 525 for $1,499. Plus $349 for the upgraded stand and pedals. So $1750/$1850 plus IL sales tax.
I currently have a CVP-105 that still works but I do not like the action. Was offered $100 trade lol. I can actually live with that as I do not want to reassemble it or invite strangers into my home just to get a couple hundred more for it.
What say all you experts here?
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Paraphrasing Duke Ellington: "If it feels good, it IS good."
If you like the action, that's the first step. Ignore the sound, you can always update with a cheapo laptop, PianoTeq and some speakers.
The Roland HP704 is down to $2900 at GuitarCenter. If you're happy with the lack of a cabinet, you can get the same mechanism and add a stand for a bit less.
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I did a lot of auditioning - but all of it was on cabinet focused instruments - ended up with the HP704 - which I've now had for about 18 months. I went cheaper prior with a high end Casio - but the action wasn't suitable. The 10 year warranty was a big plus for the Roland. George and I are fussy consumers, but LD is the expert.
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I won't go back from my PianoTeq Petrof Mistral. I guess, from there it's a matter of finding an action you like. I have a low end but good one with my Roland FP-10.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Horace said in My next piano??:
Roland FP-10
Is that the same action as the 704?
No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.
Education is extremely important.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Horace said in My next piano??:
Roland FP-10
Is that the same action as the 704?
No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.
@Horace said in My next piano??:
I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.
Right - if you're not offended, it'll be "good enough."
Also, if you have a "real" piano...well, that's sort of the point. @mark has a very nice Estonia (which I've touched), so your point is well-taken.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Horace said in My next piano??:
Roland FP-10
Is that the same action as the 704?
No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.
@Horace said in My next piano??:
@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Horace said in My next piano??:
Roland FP-10
Is that the same action as the 704?
No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.
PHA4 is good enough. You still need an acoustic.
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EBay, good prices on New and Open Box
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fp-10&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3
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I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon.
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Wish we could have sampled some Rolands, but nobody in the area had one that met our criteria.
Just submitted the paperwork for three of these:
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/clp-745/index.html
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I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.
@mark said in My next piano??:
vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.
The 525 is on sale at Sweetwater for $1,599
The 525 is on sale at Sam Ash for $129 (including keyboard stickers)
Sam Ash has a clearance sale going on, but still, this is too low. I was looking for a violin there, crazy prices for that too.
I'm missing something here.
https://sammusiciay.shop/products/yamaha-p-525-88-key-digital-piano-package-black-beginner-package
EDIT...
That appears to be a scam, too good to be true
https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/31571/crazy-sale-if-you-need-an-instrument/2
