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My next piano??

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #128

    LD thinks the quality of a performance of classical piano music depends on how well the performer adheres to the score.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      I won't go back from my PianoTeq Petrof Mistral. I guess, from there it's a matter of finding an action you like. I have a low end but good one with my Roland FP-10.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #129

      @Horace said in My next piano??:

      Roland FP-10

      Is that the same action as the 704?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Horace said in My next piano??:

        Roland FP-10

        Is that the same action as the 704?

        HoraceH Offline
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        #130

        @George-K said in My next piano??:

        @Horace said in My next piano??:

        Roland FP-10

        Is that the same action as the 704?

        No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @George-K said in My next piano??:

          @Horace said in My next piano??:

          Roland FP-10

          Is that the same action as the 704?

          No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #131

          @Horace said in My next piano??:

          I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

          Right - if you're not offended, it'll be "good enough."

          Also, if you have a "real" piano...well, that's sort of the point. @mark has a very nice Estonia (which I've touched), so your point is well-taken.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @George-K said in My next piano??:

            @Horace said in My next piano??:

            Roland FP-10

            Is that the same action as the 704?

            No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #132

            @Horace said in My next piano??:

            @George-K said in My next piano??:

            @Horace said in My next piano??:

            Roland FP-10

            Is that the same action as the 704?

            No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

            PHA4 is good enough. You still need an acoustic.

            The Brad

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            • kluursK Offline
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              kluurs
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              #133

              There’s an FP10 that was bought in January that they’re selling for $450 on FB Marketplace

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              • CopperC Online
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                Copper
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                #134

                EBay, good prices on New and Open Box

                https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fp-10&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
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                  #135

                  yeah Roland made a deal with Costco, they were available on the floor at $550 after discounts. The ACR is the branded one Costco bulk purchased. FP-10 hardware with slightly modified firmware, different voices I think.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • kluursK Offline
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                    kluurs
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                    #136

                    Better deal
                    https://www.facebook.com/share/WmVVguR1qP58WFAu/?mibextid=79PoIi

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                    • markM Offline
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                      mark
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                      #137

                      I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

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                      • markM Offline
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                        mark
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #138

                        I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

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                        • markM mark

                          I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

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                          kluurs
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                          @mark said in My next piano??:

                          I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

                          Come on down.

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                            Jolly
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                            Wish we could have sampled some Rolands, but nobody in the area had one that met our criteria.

                            Just submitted the paperwork for three of these:

                            https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/clp-745/index.html

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • markM Offline
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                              #141

                              Those are sweet Yamaha models.

                              I don't want to go that high end.

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                              • markM mark

                                I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

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                                Copper
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                                #142

                                @mark said in My next piano??:

                                vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

                                The 525 is on sale at Sweetwater for $1,599

                                The 525 is on sale at Sam Ash for $129 (including keyboard stickers)

                                Sam Ash has a clearance sale going on, but still, this is too low. I was looking for a violin there, crazy prices for that too.

                                I'm missing something here.

                                https://sammusiciay.shop/products/yamaha-p-525-88-key-digital-piano-package-black-beginner-package

                                EDIT...

                                That appears to be a scam, too good to be true

                                https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/31571/crazy-sale-if-you-need-an-instrument/2

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