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My next piano??

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #125

    BTW, the Yamahas I looked at were nice, but just didn't "move" me.

    The 10 year in-home Roland warranty was another factor. It expires when I'm 83 years old, so there's that.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #126

      I won't go back from my PianoTeq Petrof Mistral. I guess, from there it's a matter of finding an action you like. I have a low end but good one with my Roland FP-10.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • kluursK Offline
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        kluurs
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        #127

        I did a lot of auditioning - but all of it was on cabinet focused instruments - ended up with the HP704 - which I've now had for about 18 months. I went cheaper prior with a high end Casio - but the action wasn't suitable. The 10 year warranty was a big plus for the Roland. George and I are fussy consumers, but LD is the expert.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #128

          LD thinks the quality of a performance of classical piano music depends on how well the performer adheres to the score.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            I won't go back from my PianoTeq Petrof Mistral. I guess, from there it's a matter of finding an action you like. I have a low end but good one with my Roland FP-10.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #129

            @Horace said in My next piano??:

            Roland FP-10

            Is that the same action as the 704?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Horace said in My next piano??:

              Roland FP-10

              Is that the same action as the 704?

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #130

              @George-K said in My next piano??:

              @Horace said in My next piano??:

              Roland FP-10

              Is that the same action as the 704?

              No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @George-K said in My next piano??:

                @Horace said in My next piano??:

                Roland FP-10

                Is that the same action as the 704?

                No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #131

                @Horace said in My next piano??:

                I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

                Right - if you're not offended, it'll be "good enough."

                Also, if you have a "real" piano...well, that's sort of the point. @mark has a very nice Estonia (which I've touched), so your point is well-taken.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @George-K said in My next piano??:

                  @Horace said in My next piano??:

                  Roland FP-10

                  Is that the same action as the 704?

                  No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #132

                  @Horace said in My next piano??:

                  @George-K said in My next piano??:

                  @Horace said in My next piano??:

                  Roland FP-10

                  Is that the same action as the 704?

                  No, the FP-10 has Roland's entry level PHA-4 action, and the 704 has the PHA-50. I guess there's a "pivot length" difference, maybe among other things. My action clicks a lot, which is the main drawback to me. But I haven't had experience with their better actions, and may not know what I'm missing. I think practice on a PHA-4 transfers adequately to any piano, that's the important thing.

                  PHA4 is good enough. You still need an acoustic.

                  The Brad

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                  • kluursK Offline
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                    kluurs
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #133

                    There’s an FP10 that was bought in January that they’re selling for $450 on FB Marketplace

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                    • CopperC Online
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                      Copper
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                      #134

                      EBay, good prices on New and Open Box

                      https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fp-10&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #135

                        yeah Roland made a deal with Costco, they were available on the floor at $550 after discounts. The ACR is the branded one Costco bulk purchased. FP-10 hardware with slightly modified firmware, different voices I think.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • kluursK Offline
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                          kluurs
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #136

                          Better deal
                          https://www.facebook.com/share/WmVVguR1qP58WFAu/?mibextid=79PoIi

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                          • markM Offline
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                            mark
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #137

                            I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

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                              mark
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #138

                              I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

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                              • markM mark

                                I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

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                                kluurs
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #139

                                @mark said in My next piano??:

                                I know it's a lot more money vs the FP10/30 but, we like what we like. I haven't played the HP704 yet. I might have to visit George and Ken soon. 😉

                                Come on down.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #140

                                  Wish we could have sampled some Rolands, but nobody in the area had one that met our criteria.

                                  Just submitted the paperwork for three of these:

                                  https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/clp-745/index.html

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • markM Offline
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                                    mark
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #141

                                    Those are sweet Yamaha models.

                                    I don't want to go that high end.

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                                    • markM mark

                                      I'm looking for higher quality more stable with 3 pedals. I tried an FP-30 and vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

                                      CopperC Online
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by Copper
                                      #142

                                      @mark said in My next piano??:

                                      vastly preferred the Yamaha P515/525 series build, pedals and action.

                                      The 525 is on sale at Sweetwater for $1,599

                                      The 525 is on sale at Sam Ash for $129 (including keyboard stickers)

                                      Sam Ash has a clearance sale going on, but still, this is too low. I was looking for a violin there, crazy prices for that too.

                                      I'm missing something here.

                                      https://sammusiciay.shop/products/yamaha-p-525-88-key-digital-piano-package-black-beginner-package

                                      EDIT...

                                      That appears to be a scam, too good to be true

                                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/31571/crazy-sale-if-you-need-an-instrument/2

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