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  • 89th8 89th

    @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

    Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

    Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

    Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

    1. Can they turn off the source of the gas?
    2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline?
    3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds?
    4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)?
    5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear.
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    @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

    @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

    Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

    Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

    Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

    1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
    2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
    3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
    4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
    5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

      Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

      Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

      1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
      2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
      3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
      4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
      5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
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      @jon-nyc Cool thx

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      • KlausK Offline
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        I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

          Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

          Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

          1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
          2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
          3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
          4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
          5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
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          @jon-nyc said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

          Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

          Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

          1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
          2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
          3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
          4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
          5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES

          They still flare down here at isolated wells. It's really nice if the well is on your property and they'll let you use the gas.

          Or, you can go out and steal some casing head...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • KlausK Klaus

            I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

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            Renauda
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            @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

            I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

            That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

              I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

              That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.

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              @Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

              @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

              I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

              That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.

              But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                @Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

                That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.

                But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.

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                Renauda
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                #29

                @Klaus

                Not if the FSB were involved. Lately it tends to leave its greasy fingerprints not to mention chemical residue all over any convert operations it undertakes.

                Elbows up!

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #30

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                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      Putin explains.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #33

                        File this under interesting speculation of the "cui bono" variety:

                        Could China have done it?

                        It pinches Europe while giving them monopsony power buying Russian gas.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
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                          Who might have or probably did it:

                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/shock-and-awe-who-attacked-the-nord-stream-pipelines-a78952

                          Elbows up!

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #35

                            Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.

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                              Renauda
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                              @jon-nyc

                              The fact that Tucker Carlson had already JAQed off over US incentives likely served as a deterrent for him. Good question about China though.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Renauda
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                                Hybrid warfare, is Norway’s production next?

                                https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/is-russia-preparing-to-target-vital-norwegian-energy-exports-to-europe/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGHQ8XpilwoHYXpb57A1ArgS4lU4Qi0oF531tPyaXt08gMC1cNkIhYqSlUZHxmP3bE6jjLMQpaxje-VMFd4sXHRlspW665fCDkI_I9nGfASeg

                                Elbows up!

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #38

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    Copper
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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      Pitchers

                                      https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869

                                      Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."

                                      One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Pitchers

                                        https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869

                                        Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."

                                        One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        #41

                                        @George-K

                                        As I have suspected all along, the Russian FSB launched weaponised smart pigs into the line and detonated them at designated points far from Russia.

                                        SPECTRE SMERSH fingerprints all over it.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • AxtremusA Away
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/18/nord-stream-1-first-underwater-images-reveal-devastating-damage

                                          “… long tears in the seabed near the concrete-reinforced steel pipe that was not merely cracked but torn apart ... At least 50 metres of the gas pipeline appeared to be missing.”
                                          …

                                          Based on original reporting by a Swedish news site (more pictures and videos here): https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/forsta-bilderna-fran-sprangda-gasroret-pa-ostersjons-botten/

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