Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2
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@89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
@Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.
Those two lines are running a lot of gas...
Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:
- Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
- Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
- How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
- How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
- The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
@jon-nyc said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
@89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
@Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.
Those two lines are running a lot of gas...
Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:
- Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
- Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
- How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
- How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
- The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
They still flare down here at isolated wells. It's really nice if the well is on your property and they'll let you use the gas.
Or, you can go out and steal some casing head...
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I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.
@Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.
That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.
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@Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.
That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.
@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
@Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.
That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.
But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.
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@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
@Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.
That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.
But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.
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Who might have or probably did it:
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Hybrid warfare, is Norway’s production next?
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Pitchers
https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869
Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."
One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.
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Pitchers
https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869
Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."
One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.
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“… long tears in the seabed near the concrete-reinforced steel pipe that was not merely cracked but torn apart ... At least 50 metres of the gas pipeline appeared to be missing.”
…Based on original reporting by a Swedish news site (more pictures and videos here): https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/forsta-bilderna-fran-sprangda-gasroret-pa-ostersjons-botten/
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Swedish authorities investigating a series of blasts that damaged undersea natural-gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea said they had found traces of explosives on several foreign objects nearby, a potential break in an international probe into who was responsible for what authorities have called sabotage.
Sweden, in a statement Friday, said it found traces of explosives on several of the foreign objects. It didn’t elaborate but said it was continuing the “very complex and extensive” probe aimed at finding a culprit.
The discovery of explosives could help investigators learn the origins of the material. A press officer at the prosecutor’s office said it wasn’t clear if the material they had found was traceable.
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So, what is the West going to do about it?
