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    Klaus
    wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 17:29 last edited by
    #25

    I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

    R 1 Reply Last reply 28 Sept 2022, 18:30
    • J jon-nyc
      28 Sept 2022, 14:17

      @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

      Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

      Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

      1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
      2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
      3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
      4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
      5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
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      Jolly
      wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 17:33 last edited by
      #26

      @jon-nyc said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

      Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

      Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

      Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

      1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
      2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
      3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
      4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
      5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES

      They still flare down here at isolated wells. It's really nice if the well is on your property and they'll let you use the gas.

      Or, you can go out and steal some casing head...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • K Klaus
        28 Sept 2022, 17:29

        I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 18:30 last edited by Renauda 10 Apr 2022, 20:37
        #27

        @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

        I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

        That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.

        Elbows up!

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        • R Renauda
          28 Sept 2022, 18:30

          @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

          That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.

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          Klaus
          wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 18:41 last edited by
          #28

          @Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

          I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

          That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.

          But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.

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          • K Klaus
            28 Sept 2022, 18:41

            @Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

            @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

            I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

            That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.

            But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 18:54 last edited by
            #29

            @Klaus

            Not if the FSB were involved. Lately it tends to leave its greasy fingerprints not to mention chemical residue all over any convert operations it undertakes.

            Elbows up!

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                Mik
                wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 13:29 last edited by
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                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  George K
                  wrote on 1 Oct 2022, 14:01 last edited by
                  #32

                  Putin explains.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 1 Oct 2022, 18:00 last edited by
                    #33

                    File this under interesting speculation of the "cui bono" variety:

                    Could China have done it?

                    It pinches Europe while giving them monopsony power buying Russian gas.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:36 last edited by
                      #34

                      Who might have or probably did it:

                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/shock-and-awe-who-attacked-the-nord-stream-pipelines-a78952

                      Elbows up!

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:44 last edited by
                        #35

                        Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          4 Oct 2022, 20:44

                          Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 21:46 last edited by
                          #36

                          @jon-nyc

                          The fact that Tucker Carlson had already JAQed off over US incentives likely served as a deterrent for him. Good question about China though.

                          Elbows up!

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 00:13 last edited by
                            #37

                            Hybrid warfare, is Norway’s production next?

                            https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/is-russia-preparing-to-target-vital-norwegian-energy-exports-to-europe/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGHQ8XpilwoHYXpb57A1ArgS4lU4Qi0oF531tPyaXt08gMC1cNkIhYqSlUZHxmP3bE6jjLMQpaxje-VMFd4sXHRlspW665fCDkI_I9nGfASeg

                            Elbows up!

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 03:27 last edited by
                              #38

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 14:39 last edited by
                                #39

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 22:50 last edited by
                                  #40

                                  Pitchers

                                  https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869

                                  Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."

                                  One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K
                                    18 Oct 2022, 22:50

                                    Pitchers

                                    https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869

                                    Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."

                                    One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 23:04 last edited by Renauda
                                    #41

                                    @George-K

                                    As I have suspected all along, the Russian FSB launched weaponised smart pigs into the line and detonated them at designated points far from Russia.

                                    SPECTRE SMERSH fingerprints all over it.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 19 Oct 2022, 11:06 last edited by
                                      #42

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/18/nord-stream-1-first-underwater-images-reveal-devastating-damage

                                      “… long tears in the seabed near the concrete-reinforced steel pipe that was not merely cracked but torn apart ... At least 50 metres of the gas pipeline appeared to be missing.”
                                      …

                                      Based on original reporting by a Swedish news site (more pictures and videos here): https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/forsta-bilderna-fran-sprangda-gasroret-pa-ostersjons-botten/

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:17 last edited by
                                        #43

                                        Explosives found

                                        Swedish authorities investigating a series of blasts that damaged undersea natural-gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea said they had found traces of explosives on several foreign objects nearby, a potential break in an international probe into who was responsible for what authorities have called sabotage.

                                        Sweden, in a statement Friday, said it found traces of explosives on several of the foreign objects. It didn’t elaborate but said it was continuing the “very complex and extensive” probe aimed at finding a culprit.

                                        The discovery of explosives could help investigators learn the origins of the material. A press officer at the prosecutor’s office said it wasn’t clear if the material they had found was traceable.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:53 last edited by
                                          #44

                                          So, what is the West going to do about it?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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