Hurry Up and Die
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Well, Copper and, to a lesser extent, Jolly, seem to be unduly concerned about it.
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
No problem though. I am sure the foreign press and talking heads like Tucker Carlson know best about it all works.
@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
Yeah, we saw that when we lived in Ontario.
I noticed that the perception of healthcare in both the UK and Canada were very different from the way it was talked about in the US, probably because when Americans discuss foreign healthcare they're really talking about US healthcare.
If Tucker Carlson appears worried about a foreigner dying, it's mostly so that he can say - SEE, THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU WHEN AMERICA BECOMES MORE SOCIALIZED!!!!
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
@Copper said in Hurry Up and Die:
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
Probably explains why the National Institutes of Health are so huge, and such incalculably enormous amounts of money being spent on disease cure and prevention research -- because the government wants all the sick people to die and save them money.
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Death proponents point out that between 20-30% of money spent on healthcare makes no difference, because it is being spent at the end stage of life ( last 90 days or so). 75% of Americans die in a nursing home or in a hospital.
I can certainly see the cost savings of euthanasia.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.
Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
UK life expectancy: 81 years
US life expectancy: 78.7 years -
As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.
Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
UK life expectancy: 81 years
US life expectancy: 78.7 yearsYes of course I ought to have realised that. Silly me.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?
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@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?
@Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:
If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?
Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?
I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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American conservatives have yet to find a problem that cannot be solved by encouraging people to buy more guns, and I'm sure the dangers of an aging population are no different in that regard.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with. -
@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
Copper's cockamamie theory
I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.
The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.
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@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.
Not so.
Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.
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@Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:
If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?
Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?
I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.
@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:
If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?
Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?
I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.
Motivation.
Do keep up.
