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Hurry Up and Die

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Death proponents point out that between 20-30% of money spent on healthcare makes no difference, because it is being spent at the end stage of life ( last 90 days or so). 75% of Americans die in a nursing home or in a hospital.

    I can certainly see the cost savings of euthanasia.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #17

      And don't forget the savings in Social Security.

      You don't have to pay dead people.

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      • CopperC Copper

        And don't forget the savings in Social Security.

        You don't have to pay dead people.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        @Copper said in Hurry Up and Die:

        And don't forget the savings in Social Security.

        Which will be at least partially offset by all the SS processors being laid off due to attrition and having to go on -- wait for it -- welfare!

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          When was the last time the feds had a massive lay-off?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            When was the last time the feds had a massive lay-off?

            Catseye3C Offline
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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            @Jolly
            Who said anything about massive?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              If we're talking about the balancing the savings in SS, it's going to have to be massive.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                If we're talking about the balancing the savings in SS, it's going to have to be massive.

                Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                @Jolly
                But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #23

                  As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.

                  Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
                  UK life expectancy: 81 years
                  US life expectancy: 78.7 years

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.

                    Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
                    UK life expectancy: 81 years
                    US life expectancy: 78.7 years

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    @Doctor-Phibes

                    Yes of course I ought to have realised that. Silly me.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      @Jolly
                      But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

                      @Jolly
                      But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

                      It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        @Jolly
                        But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

                        It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #26

                        @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?

                        Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?

                        I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #27

                          American conservatives have yet to find a problem that cannot be solved by encouraging people to buy more guns, and I'm sure the dangers of an aging population are no different in that regard.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @Jolly
                            But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

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                            Copper
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                            @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

                            Copper's cockamamie theory

                            I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.

                            The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

                              Copper's cockamamie theory

                              I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.

                              The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #29

                              @Copper

                              Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @Copper

                                Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #30

                                @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                @Copper

                                Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                                Not so.

                                Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                  If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?

                                  Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?

                                  I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #31

                                  @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                  @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                  If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?

                                  Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?

                                  I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.

                                  Motivation.

                                  Do keep up.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                    @Copper

                                    Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                                    Not so.

                                    Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                                    RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #32

                                    @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                    @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                    @Copper

                                    Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                                    Not so.

                                    Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                                    I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                                    Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                                    Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                                    Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                      @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                      @Copper

                                      Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                                      Not so.

                                      Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                                      I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                                      Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                                      Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                                      Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

                                      CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #33

                                      @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                      But what would I know, eh?

                                      Just because you have spent some time there doesn't disqualify anyone else from posting about Canada.

                                      That seems to be your answer for every post that even mentions Canada. You happen to be inside the border, so what?

                                      And money provides motivation, really, ask any Canadian.

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                        But what would I know, eh?

                                        Just because you have spent some time there doesn't disqualify anyone else from posting about Canada.

                                        That seems to be your answer for every post that even mentions Canada. You happen to be inside the border, so what?

                                        And money provides motivation, really, ask any Canadian.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #34

                                        @Copper

                                        So what’s your point?

                                        I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @Copper

                                          So what’s your point?

                                          I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #35

                                          @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                                          @Copper

                                          So what’s you point?

                                          I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

                                          I live in North America which makes me an expert on North America.

                                          And money provides motivation, really, ask any North American.

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