Hurry Up and Die
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I've noticed a number of articles about this recently, almost all by non-Canadian sources.
It's almost as though somebody's got an agenda.
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 13:43 last edited byWell, Copper and, to a lesser extent, Jolly, seem to be unduly concerned about it.
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
No problem though. I am sure the foreign press and talking heads like Tucker Carlson know best about it all works.
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Well, Copper and, to a lesser extent, Jolly, seem to be unduly concerned about it.
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
No problem though. I am sure the foreign press and talking heads like Tucker Carlson know best about it all works.
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 14:23 last edited by Doctor Phibes 9 Aug 2022, 14:24@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
Yeah, we saw that when we lived in Ontario.
I noticed that the perception of healthcare in both the UK and Canada were very different from the way it was talked about in the US, probably because when Americans discuss foreign healthcare they're really talking about US healthcare.
If Tucker Carlson appears worried about a foreigner dying, it's mostly so that he can say - SEE, THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU WHEN AMERICA BECOMES MORE SOCIALIZED!!!!
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 15:41 last edited by
If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 15:52 last edited by Catseye3 9 Aug 2022, 16:09@Copper said in Hurry Up and Die:
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
Probably explains why the National Institutes of Health are so huge, and such incalculably enormous amounts of money being spent on disease cure and prevention research -- because the government wants all the sick people to die and save them money.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 15:53 last edited by
Death proponents point out that between 20-30% of money spent on healthcare makes no difference, because it is being spent at the end stage of life ( last 90 days or so). 75% of Americans die in a nursing home or in a hospital.
I can certainly see the cost savings of euthanasia.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 16:10 last edited by
And don't forget the savings in Social Security.
You don't have to pay dead people.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 16:28 last edited by
@Copper said in Hurry Up and Die:
And don't forget the savings in Social Security.
Which will be at least partially offset by all the SS processors being laid off due to attrition and having to go on -- wait for it -- welfare!
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 16:44 last edited by
When was the last time the feds had a massive lay-off?
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 16:52 last edited by
If we're talking about the balancing the savings in SS, it's going to have to be massive.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 16:59 last edited by
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with. -
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:01 last edited by Doctor Phibes 9 Aug 2022, 17:03
As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.
Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
UK life expectancy: 81 years
US life expectancy: 78.7 years -
As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.
Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
UK life expectancy: 81 years
US life expectancy: 78.7 yearswrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:04 last edited byYes of course I ought to have realised that. Silly me.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:09 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?
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@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:14 last edited by@Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:
If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?
Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?
I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:17 last edited by Doctor Phibes 9 Aug 2022, 17:17
American conservatives have yet to find a problem that cannot be solved by encouraging people to buy more guns, and I'm sure the dangers of an aging population are no different in that regard.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:31 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
Copper's cockamamie theory
I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.
The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.
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@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
Copper's cockamamie theory
I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.
The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:49 last edited by
@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.
Not so.
Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.