Hurry Up and Die
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So? He’s a libertarian. A person of little or no apparent consequence. A bit like a house cat.
@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
So? He’s a libertarian. A person of little or no apparent consequence. A bit like a house cat.
That's interesting. Always thought a libertarian was just a conservative with a wild hair.
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@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
So? He’s a libertarian. A person of little or no apparent consequence. A bit like a house cat.
That's interesting. Always thought a libertarian was just a conservative with a wild hair.
No, libertarians are like house cats. The are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don’t appreciate or understand.
And yes, I stole that description.
In any case libertarians are a dime a dozen around here in Alberta and I don’t hear any of them pissing and moaning about what was in Shakeford’s op-Ed.
I am sure he knows sweet fuck all about the health care system here let alone MAID.
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That’s odd. Does not seem to be an issue in this country for the vast majority of the populace.
Should it be?
Probably not.
But, be my guest. You are free to tell me how it really is where I live.
Not an issue according to some who know how it really is.
Are Canadians being driven to assisted suicide by poverty or healthcare crisis?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-right-to-die-laws‘Disturbing’: Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws
https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867Medical assistance in dying
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assistance-dying.htmlCanada Is Euthanizing Its Sick and Poor. Welcome to World of Government Health Care.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/08/24/canada-is-euthanizing-its-sick-and-poor-welcome-to-world-of-government-health-care/Canada’s New Euthanasia Laws Carry Upsetting Nazi-Era Echoes, Warns Expert
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou/2022/08/15/canadas-new-euthanasia-laws-carry-upsetting-nazi-era-echoes-warns-expert/?sh=32e1580fc7b8 -
I've noticed a number of articles about this recently, almost all by non-Canadian sources.
It's almost as though somebody's got an agenda.
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I've noticed a number of articles about this recently, almost all by non-Canadian sources.
It's almost as though somebody's got an agenda.
Well, Copper and, to a lesser extent, Jolly, seem to be unduly concerned about it.
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
No problem though. I am sure the foreign press and talking heads like Tucker Carlson know best about it all works.
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Well, Copper and, to a lesser extent, Jolly, seem to be unduly concerned about it.
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
No problem though. I am sure the foreign press and talking heads like Tucker Carlson know best about it all works.
@Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:
There are concerns about the delivery of health care services here as well but for wholly different reasons than what gets reported abroad.
Yeah, we saw that when we lived in Ontario.
I noticed that the perception of healthcare in both the UK and Canada were very different from the way it was talked about in the US, probably because when Americans discuss foreign healthcare they're really talking about US healthcare.
If Tucker Carlson appears worried about a foreigner dying, it's mostly so that he can say - SEE, THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU WHEN AMERICA BECOMES MORE SOCIALIZED!!!!
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
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If the government is paying for your healthcare, it is in the government's interest for you to die and stop the spending.
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
This is not a special problem in Canada or the UK. It is simple budgeting.
Dead people don't consume healthcare. Budget problem solved.
That works in any country, and you don't have to live there to understand it.
@Copper said in Hurry Up and Die:
Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
Probably explains why the National Institutes of Health are so huge, and such incalculably enormous amounts of money being spent on disease cure and prevention research -- because the government wants all the sick people to die and save them money.
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Death proponents point out that between 20-30% of money spent on healthcare makes no difference, because it is being spent at the end stage of life ( last 90 days or so). 75% of Americans die in a nursing home or in a hospital.
I can certainly see the cost savings of euthanasia.
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When was the last time the feds had a massive lay-off?
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If we're talking about the balancing the savings in SS, it's going to have to be massive.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.
Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
UK life expectancy: 81 years
US life expectancy: 78.7 years -
As I said - whenever Americans talk about foreign healthcare, they're actually talking about American healthcare.
Canadian life expectancy: 82 years
UK life expectancy: 81 years
US life expectancy: 78.7 yearsYes of course I ought to have realised that. Silly me.
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@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?
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@Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:
@Jolly
But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?
@Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:
If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?
Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?
I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
