Roe & Casey overturned.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 21:38 last edited by
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wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 21:59 last edited by
It’s her emotional truth.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 03:16 last edited by Axtremus
The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
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The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 04:21 last edited by@Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
Well, that is just a reading comprehension fail on your part. There is no threat to prosecute for performing the abortion.
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The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 11:12 last edited by@Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
Uh, no.
Get your facts straight and get back to us.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:54 last edited by
This is what democracy looks like, as Dobbs intended.
Kansas voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly struck down a proposed constitutional amendment that would remove language enshrining reproductive rights in their state, in a move widely seen as a victory for abortion rights activists.
The proposed amendment was the first time anywhere in the U.S. that voters cast ballots on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.
A ballot question, known as the “Value Them Both Amendment,” asked voters to decide whether the state’s Constitution should continue to protect abortion rights. The proposed amendment to the state Constitution would have removed language that guarantees reproductive rights and asked voters if they prefer to put the issue of abortion in the hands of the state’s Republican-controlled legislature — an outcome that abortion advocates said was all but certain to result in the elimination or curtailment of those rights.
A “yes” vote on the measure would remove from the state Constitution the right to an abortion and hand the issue back to the state legislature. A “no” vote on the measure would make no changes, keeping abortion rights enshrined in the state Constitution.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:57 last edited by
As it should be.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:47 last edited by
Pretty much.
I think the abortion issue is going to cool off quite a bit by November.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:49 last edited by
The language in the Kansas amendment was a bit confusing IMO, so I could see folks voting no when they meant yes, and vice versa. Still, yes this is exactly what Dobbs was about.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:55 last edited by
Despite all the screeching, this court may in coming years be seen to have saved the Constitution from an overbearing federal government.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:03 last edited by
And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.
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And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:37 last edited by@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.
Trump's legacy with the court is very much solidified, and appreciated by conservatives like me. It actually helps offset the many other things he did that I thought significantly degraded the expectations of the office. I don't mean that as a subtle jab, just in terms of how his legacy is balanced in my head.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by
The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.
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The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:44 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.
Agreed that it would be better if candidates on both sides were better. It's sad that more people don't see things that way.
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The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 16:33 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.
No, I lived through the Bush years.
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@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.
No, I lived through the Bush years.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks
Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.
Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.
However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.
I believe Missouri now has such a law.
wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 09:35 last edited by@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks
Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.
Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.
However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.
I believe Missouri now has such a law.
A judge in Missouri says lawmakers who passed a restrictive abortion ban were not trying to impose their religious beliefs on everyone in the state, rejecting a case filed by more than a dozen Christian, Jewish and Unitarian Universalist leaders who support abortion rights.
The groups sought a permanent injunction last year barring Missouri from enforcing its abortion law and a declaration that provisions violate the state Constitution.
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wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 09:51 last edited by
I guess you won't be having your abortion in Missouri, then...
