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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #266

    Pretty much.

    I think the abortion issue is going to cool off quite a bit by November.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      The language in the Kansas amendment was a bit confusing IMO, so I could see folks voting no when they meant yes, and vice versa. Still, yes this is exactly what Dobbs was about.

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      • MikM Away
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        Despite all the screeching, this court may in coming years be seen to have saved the Constitution from an overbearing federal government.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.

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            @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.

            Trump's legacy with the court is very much solidified, and appreciated by conservatives like me. It actually helps offset the many other things he did that I thought significantly degraded the expectations of the office. I don't mean that as a subtle jab, just in terms of how his legacy is balanced in my head.

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              The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

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                @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

                Agreed that it would be better if candidates on both sides were better. It's sad that more people don't see things that way.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

                  No, I lived through the Bush years.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

                    No, I lived through the Bush years.

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                    @Jolly I mean any gop candidate in the third decade of the 21st century.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks

                      Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.

                      Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.

                      However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.

                      I believe Missouri now has such a law.

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                      @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks

                      Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.

                      Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.

                      However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.

                      I believe Missouri now has such a law.

                      https://apnews.com/article/abortion-lawsuit-religious-leaders-missouri-b460c0866dd0c0285589137beca1db49

                      A judge in Missouri says lawmakers who passed a restrictive abortion ban were not trying to impose their religious beliefs on everyone in the state, rejecting a case filed by more than a dozen Christian, Jewish and Unitarian Universalist leaders who support abortion rights.

                      The groups sought a permanent injunction last year barring Missouri from enforcing its abortion law and a declaration that provisions violate the state Constitution.

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                        I guess you won't be having your abortion in Missouri, then...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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