Roe & Casey overturned.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 13:35 last edited by
I was three weeks premature. Probably the only time in my life I was raring to go outside and do stuff.
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@Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
This is going to muddy the waters.
I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.
So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.
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@Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
This is going to muddy the waters.
I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.
So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.
wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:21 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 16:22@89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.
I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.
Right?
Right?
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@89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.
I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.
Right?
Right?
wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:23 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.
I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.
Right?
Right?
Unless the doc is an activist.
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@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.
I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.
Right?
Right?
Unless the doc is an activist.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:25 last edited by
I think most AG's won't go looking for trouble in the medical world, unless shoved into it.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 18:24 last edited by
I'm old enough to remember when the entire culture was in need of fainting couches over these sorts of alternative facts.
Humans are really, really stupid.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 19:58 last edited by Axtremus
Arrest of and confession by the rapist, and confirmation by the police that the 10 year old indeed traveled to Indiana for abortion.
"A Columbus man has been charged with impregnating a 10-year-old Ohio girl, whose travel to Indiana to seek an abortion led to international attention ...*
Gershon Fuentes, 27, whose last known address was an apartment on Columbus' Northwest Side, was arrested Tuesday after police say he confessed to raping the child on at least two occasions. He's since been charged with rape, a felony of the first degree in Ohio.
Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 20:21 last edited by jon-nyc
@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The status of a "fact."
Democracy dies in making shit up.
That chick seems really unreliable. It is definitely suspect that she captures a single sentence from WaPo piece yet refuses to link to the story. The actual story includes the original source, an Indianapolis OBGYN.
Maybe use the account for entertainment purposes only?
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wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 20:37 last edited by
This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.
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wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 21:12 last edited by
Still stinks, even if true.
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This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.
wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 22:57 last edited by@Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.
Yep. Most physicians would have signed off that the pregnancy carried a health risk for a 10 year old…
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This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.
wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 23:07 last edited by@Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.
Exactly. Even the so called "fetal heartbeat" bill is full of controversy. When a "heartbeat" can be discerned is up to debate and interpretation.
Oh, and at 6 weeks, it's not a fetus, it's an embryo, and there is no heart. There is only a tube that begins to contract.
Science....
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wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 23:18 last edited by
I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…
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I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…
wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 00:24 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…
Of for the POTUS to use a single source, unvetted story from the bully pulpit for political gain.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 01:06 last edited by
