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    George K
    wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 13:45 last edited by
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    "You go first, okay?"

    Those now calling for defunding police "should demonstrate by example by getting together and offering zip codes and then declaring themselves a police-free zone," black economic empowerment advocate and community activist Robert Woodson told Just the News. "And then watch how all the criminals will line up to go there."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
      wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 14:51 last edited by
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      I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.

      That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

      Education is extremely important.

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        89th
        wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 15:18 last edited by
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        @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

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          Mik
          wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 15:19 last edited by Mik 6 Sept 2020, 15:20
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          Yes, it has. If this were not an election year we would be seeing a fuss, but not nearly what we have seen. It's an effort to drive black voters to the polls.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            9 Jun 2020, 15:18

            @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

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            Horace
            wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 15:20 last edited by Horace 6 Sept 2020, 15:21
            #30

            @89th said in Defund the Police:

            @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

            Thanks 89th!

            Education is extremely important.

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              9 Jun 2020, 14:51

              I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.

              That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

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              Copper
              wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 16:12 last edited by
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              @Horace said in Defund the Police:

              the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

              Yes.

              The republican position on this will eventually be simply denial.

              This can easily be backed-up by statistics.

              That doesn't matter, it will be a nazi racist position.

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                Loki
                wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 16:30 last edited by
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                Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.

                The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.

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                  9 Jun 2020, 16:30

                  Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.

                  The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.

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                  A Former User
                  wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 16:48 last edited by A Former User 6 Sept 2020, 16:49
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 17:11 last edited by
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                    In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

                    I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      9 Jun 2020, 17:11

                      In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

                      I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 18:42 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

                      In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

                      I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

                      In that sense defunding of the police is accurate.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 22:35 last edited by
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                        This issue has become similar to the immigration debate. As it became necessary for people to say out loud that they do believe immigration laws have a place in society, or to explicitly deny that, it now seems necessary for us to say out loud that police are useful and deserving of our tax dollars, or to explicitly deny that.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 22:38 last edited by
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                          Explicitly denying it still seems quite rare.

                          But there's probably a lot of 'motte and bailey' arguments being adopted, so it's hard to say.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Rainman
                            wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 01:16 last edited by
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                            I watched the MSM news tonight, I think ABC.
                            Wow, we're in trouble, at least based on their segments. So incredibly one-sided and biased, I'm sure some would quip "Pravda."
                            If politicians will not stick up for anything, seems to me there will be some police departments that will need to push back. If a police department has blue flu (if that's what it's called), that may be a necessary wake up call to trigger some reasonableness.

                            There is only one politician that stands up, and that is Trump. But if he keeps tweeting that stupid crazy shit like he did today. . .

                            I figured maybe he is trying to get himself banned on Twitter, for reasons I can't figure. If not that, then he really is a pompous ass and a bully, and will lose in November based upon his steady stream of nonsense.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 12:31 last edited by
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                              Donald Trump is defunding the police
                              He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                              https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 15:48 last edited by
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                                Good

                                Stop spending

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 5 Jul 2020, 12:10 last edited by
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                                  Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    5 Jul 2020, 12:10

                                    Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

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                                    Rainman
                                    wrote on 5 Jul 2020, 19:06 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Defund the Police:

                                    Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

                                    George, the "Link to Tweet" showed up as part of your post. That worked great and yes, funny and ironic!

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                      17 Jun 2020, 12:31

                                      Donald Trump is defunding the police
                                      He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                                      https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on 5 Jul 2020, 23:14 last edited by
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                                      @Axtremus said in Defund the Police:

                                      Donald Trump is defunding the police
                                      He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                                      https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

                                      Are you truly that fucking stupid? COPS has Jack shit to do with police. It's the "Community Oriented Protection Services". In other words, it's another Democrat waste of money to pay a bunch of leftwing nutjobs to go around their community and ask the thugs if they want to sign up for finger painting classes.

                                      This is why none of you dumbass democrats should be trusted. All up and down the chain, nothing but morons.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 18:58 last edited by Loki 8 Feb 2020, 18:58
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                                        https://nypost.com/2020/08/02/there-have-now-been-more-nyc-shootings-this-year-than-in-all-of-2019/

                                        Can’t blame the violence on federal officers.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 19:03 last edited by
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                                          Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                                          If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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