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  • RainmanR Rainman

    @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

    We already know what it looks like, since this was all beta tested in Portland.

    Sort of. The problem in PDX is that as hard as the city tries, they cannot recruit sufficient numbers of new candidates.
    It wouldn't be such a bad job, actually. City council hates you, most progressives hate you, street people hate you, your dog will hate you, wife runs away. But other than that. . . nice uniform, in a ninny sort of way.

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    @Rainman said in Defund the Police:

    @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

    We already know what it looks like, since this was all beta tested in Portland.

    Sort of. The problem in PDX is that as hard as the city tries, they cannot recruit sufficient numbers of new candidates.
    It wouldn't be such a bad job, actually. City council hates you, most progressives hate you, street people hate you, your dog will hate you, wife runs away. But other than that. . . nice uniform, in a ninny sort of way.

    How To Hire Psychopaths 101.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      "We make room for laughter." What, we're not doing that now?

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        And 1 in 3 of us will get our septums pierced.

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        George K
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        @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

        And 1 in 3 of us will get our septums pierced.

        And another 1 in 3 will have it perforate on its own from cocaine?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • RainmanR Rainman

          @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

          We already know what it looks like, since this was all beta tested in Portland.

          Sort of. The problem in PDX is that as hard as the city tries, they cannot recruit sufficient numbers of new candidates.
          It wouldn't be such a bad job, actually. City council hates you, most progressives hate you, street people hate you, your dog will hate you, wife runs away. But other than that. . . nice uniform, in a ninny sort of way.

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          George K
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          #23

          @Rainman said in Defund the Police:

          Sort of. The problem in PDX is that as hard as the city tries, they cannot recruit sufficient numbers of new candidates.
          It wouldn't be such a bad job, actually. City council hates you, most progressives hate you, street people hate you, your dog will hate you, wife runs away. But other than that. . . nice uniform, in a ninny sort of way.

          And you get to ride bikes all over the place!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

            In case anyone is curious how this would work....

            47896efc-225d-4a1f-a349-fc54cb18b0fc-image.jpeg

            I always cringe when somebody uses the word "community". It's almost (but not quite) as bad as "ally".

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            Loki
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            @Klaus said in Defund the Police:

            @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

            In case anyone is curious how this would work....

            47896efc-225d-4a1f-a349-fc54cb18b0fc-image.jpeg

            I always cringe when somebody uses the word "community". It's almost (but not quite) as bad as "ally".

            Um that’s what a religious cult looks like.
            (Until you get on the inside)

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              In utopia...one of them wakes up to find a burglar (obviously white) in their house (obviously without a door or locks) taking all of their stuff (obviously quinoa and Birkenstock’s), so they decide to call the police (a chicken in the backyard they’ve named Mrs. Justice) and in no surprise to anyone, the chicken doesn’t help.

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                "You go first, okay?"

                Those now calling for defunding police "should demonstrate by example by getting together and offering zip codes and then declaring themselves a police-free zone," black economic empowerment advocate and community activist Robert Woodson told Just the News. "And then watch how all the criminals will line up to go there."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.

                  That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #28

                    @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #29

                      Yes, it has. If this were not an election year we would be seeing a fuss, but not nearly what we have seen. It's an effort to drive black voters to the polls.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

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                        @89th said in Defund the Police:

                        @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

                        Thanks 89th!

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.

                          That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

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                          @Horace said in Defund the Police:

                          the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

                          Yes.

                          The republican position on this will eventually be simply denial.

                          This can easily be backed-up by statistics.

                          That doesn't matter, it will be a nazi racist position.

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                            Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.

                            The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.

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                              Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.

                              The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.

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                                In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

                                I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

                                  I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

                                  In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

                                  I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

                                  In that sense defunding of the police is accurate.

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                                    This issue has become similar to the immigration debate. As it became necessary for people to say out loud that they do believe immigration laws have a place in society, or to explicitly deny that, it now seems necessary for us to say out loud that police are useful and deserving of our tax dollars, or to explicitly deny that.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Explicitly denying it still seems quite rare.

                                      But there's probably a lot of 'motte and bailey' arguments being adopted, so it's hard to say.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        I watched the MSM news tonight, I think ABC.
                                        Wow, we're in trouble, at least based on their segments. So incredibly one-sided and biased, I'm sure some would quip "Pravda."
                                        If politicians will not stick up for anything, seems to me there will be some police departments that will need to push back. If a police department has blue flu (if that's what it's called), that may be a necessary wake up call to trigger some reasonableness.

                                        There is only one politician that stands up, and that is Trump. But if he keeps tweeting that stupid crazy shit like he did today. . .

                                        I figured maybe he is trying to get himself banned on Twitter, for reasons I can't figure. If not that, then he really is a pompous ass and a bully, and will lose in November based upon his steady stream of nonsense.

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                                          Donald Trump is defunding the police
                                          He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                                          https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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