Defund the Police
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 10:07 last edited by
"We make room for laughter." What, we're not doing that now?
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 11:22 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:
And 1 in 3 of us will get our septums pierced.
And another 1 in 3 will have it perforate on its own from cocaine?
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@jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:
We already know what it looks like, since this was all beta tested in Portland.
Sort of. The problem in PDX is that as hard as the city tries, they cannot recruit sufficient numbers of new candidates.
It wouldn't be such a bad job, actually. City council hates you, most progressives hate you, street people hate you, your dog will hate you, wife runs away. But other than that. . . nice uniform, in a ninny sort of way.wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 11:23 last edited by@Rainman said in Defund the Police:
Sort of. The problem in PDX is that as hard as the city tries, they cannot recruit sufficient numbers of new candidates.
It wouldn't be such a bad job, actually. City council hates you, most progressives hate you, street people hate you, your dog will hate you, wife runs away. But other than that. . . nice uniform, in a ninny sort of way.And you get to ride bikes all over the place!
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@jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:
In case anyone is curious how this would work....
I always cringe when somebody uses the word "community". It's almost (but not quite) as bad as "ally".
wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 11:35 last edited by Loki 6 Jun 2020, 11:36@Klaus said in Defund the Police:
@jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:
In case anyone is curious how this would work....
I always cringe when somebody uses the word "community". It's almost (but not quite) as bad as "ally".
Um that’s what a religious cult looks like.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 11:38 last edited by
In utopia...one of them wakes up to find a burglar (obviously white) in their house (obviously without a door or locks) taking all of their stuff (obviously quinoa and Birkenstock’s), so they decide to call the police (a chicken in the backyard they’ve named Mrs. Justice) and in no surprise to anyone, the chicken doesn’t help.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 13:45 last edited by
Those now calling for defunding police "should demonstrate by example by getting together and offering zip codes and then declaring themselves a police-free zone," black economic empowerment advocate and community activist Robert Woodson told Just the News. "And then watch how all the criminals will line up to go there."
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 14:51 last edited by
I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.
That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 15:19 last edited by Mik 6 Sept 2020, 15:20
Yes, it has. If this were not an election year we would be seeing a fuss, but not nearly what we have seen. It's an effort to drive black voters to the polls.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 15:20 last edited by Horace 6 Sept 2020, 15:21
@89th said in Defund the Police:
@Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.
Thanks 89th!
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I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.
That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.
wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 16:12 last edited by@Horace said in Defund the Police:
the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.
Yes.
The republican position on this will eventually be simply denial.
This can easily be backed-up by statistics.
That doesn't matter, it will be a nazi racist position.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 16:30 last edited by
Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.
The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.
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Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.
The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 17:11 last edited by
In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.
I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.
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In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.
I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.
wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 18:42 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:
In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.
I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.
In that sense defunding of the police is accurate.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 22:35 last edited by
This issue has become similar to the immigration debate. As it became necessary for people to say out loud that they do believe immigration laws have a place in society, or to explicitly deny that, it now seems necessary for us to say out loud that police are useful and deserving of our tax dollars, or to explicitly deny that.
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wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 22:38 last edited by
Explicitly denying it still seems quite rare.
But there's probably a lot of 'motte and bailey' arguments being adopted, so it's hard to say.
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 01:16 last edited by
I watched the MSM news tonight, I think ABC.
Wow, we're in trouble, at least based on their segments. So incredibly one-sided and biased, I'm sure some would quip "Pravda."
If politicians will not stick up for anything, seems to me there will be some police departments that will need to push back. If a police department has blue flu (if that's what it's called), that may be a necessary wake up call to trigger some reasonableness.There is only one politician that stands up, and that is Trump. But if he keeps tweeting that stupid crazy shit like he did today. . .
I figured maybe he is trying to get himself banned on Twitter, for reasons I can't figure. If not that, then he really is a pompous ass and a bully, and will lose in November based upon his steady stream of nonsense.
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wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 12:31 last edited by
Donald Trump is defunding the police
He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police -
wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 15:48 last edited by
Good
Stop spending