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The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi

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    Copper
    wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 13:22 last edited by
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    Kyle Rittenhouse Announces Initiative To Hold Corporate Media Accountable, Star Trek: Picard Actor Whoopi Goldberg On His List

    Link to video

    Tucker Carlson proceeded to ask Rittenhouse whether he’s planning on suing any particular news organisation. While the 18-year-old didn’t mention any major outlets, he did namedrop Star Trek: Picard actor and The View host Whoopi Goldberg and The Young Turks founder Cenk Uygur.

    “Well, right now, we’re looking at quite a few politicians, celebrities, athletes, Whoopi Goldberg’s on the list,” Rittenhouse told Carlson, explaining, “She called me a ‘murderer’ after I was acquitted by a jury of my peers. She went on to still say that.”

    “And there’s others,” Rittenhouse continued. “Don’t forget about Cenk from The Young Turks. He called me a murderer before the verdict, and continues to call me a murderer.”

    https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/02/23/kyle-rittenhouse-announces-initiative-to-hold-corporate-media-accountable-star-trek-picard-actor-whoopi-goldberg-on-his-list/

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      George K
      wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 13:40 last edited by
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      Everything I've read says that he has a steep hill to climb on this issue. In his case, he is supposedly a "public figure," and slander and liable laws are different.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 13:47 last edited by
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        Still, a worthwhile conversation.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • M Mik
          10 Apr 2022, 13:47

          Still, a worthwhile conversation.

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          George K
          wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 13:52 last edited by
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          @Mik absolutely.

          I fail to understand why he is a "public figure" in this case.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            10 Apr 2022, 13:52

            @Mik absolutely.

            I fail to understand why he is a "public figure" in this case.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 14:38 last edited by
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            @George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.

            The Brad

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              10 Apr 2022, 14:38

              @George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 14:39 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

              @George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.

              He's no more a public figure than Sandman was...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                10 Apr 2022, 14:39

                @LuFins-Dad said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                @George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.

                He's no more a public figure than Sandman was...

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 17:15 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                @George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.

                He's no more a public figure than Sandman was...

                The argument can be made that he was a defendant in a highly public murder case, elevating him to the role of public figure (much more so than Sandman), though, in my opinion, that's all the more reason why you need to be cautious. OJ is still referred to as "alleged"

                The Brad

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 17:34 last edited by
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                  I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.

                  I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.

                  People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Friday
                    wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 19:32 last edited by
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                    I always thought that if you were not a public figure before being charged with any crime, then you should be considered a private person. But social media probably complicates all of that.

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                    • J Jolly
                      10 Apr 2022, 17:34

                      I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.

                      I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.

                      People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 19:48 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                      I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.

                      I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.

                      People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.

                      I find the whole "Public Figure" narrative to have been distorted beyond all recognition and it is now abused. I hate case law and judicial decisions based on legal precedent.

                      The Brad

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 20:43 last edited by
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                        Welcome to the Napoleonic Code, my friend...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 21:22 last edited by
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                          Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            10 Apr 2022, 21:22

                            Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 21:44 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                            Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

                            But there should be a dividing line. At what point do they become famous, because there is no alternative? Hogg actively courted the spotlight when he was a nobody. Kyle was famous before he even knew how to spell spotlight.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              10 Apr 2022, 21:22

                              Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

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                              Ivorythumper
                              wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 22:57 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                              Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

                              Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 23:10 last edited by
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                                We need an adaptation of The Hunger Games with Rittenhouse, Hogg, and Greta Thunberg.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 23:40 last edited by
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                                  And Sandmann.

                                  The Brad

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                                    10 Apr 2022, 22:57

                                    @jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                                    Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

                                    Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 09:37 last edited by
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                                    @Ivorythumper said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                                    @jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                                    Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

                                    Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.

                                    Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      11 Apr 2022, 09:37

                                      @Ivorythumper said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                                      Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.

                                      Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.

                                      Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 11:26 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:

                                      Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.

                                      True, but the alleged slander occurred BEFORE that.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 11:56 last edited by
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                                        You think? I would think calling him a murderer prior to his acquittal wouldn’t meet the threshold of defamation.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 11:57 last edited by
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                                          He said that Goldberg called him a murderer after the acquittal

                                          I was only joking

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