The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi
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@LuFins-Dad said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.
He's no more a public figure than Sandman was...
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@Jolly said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@LuFins-Dad said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@George-K The whole public figure thing has been stretched waaay to far.
He's no more a public figure than Sandman was...
The argument can be made that he was a defendant in a highly public murder case, elevating him to the role of public figure (much more so than Sandman), though, in my opinion, that's all the more reason why you need to be cautious. OJ is still referred to as "alleged"
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I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.
I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.
People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Warning: I post things that interest me. Read and comment at your own discretion.
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@Jolly said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.
I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.
People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.
I find the whole "Public Figure" narrative to have been distorted beyond all recognition and it is now abused. I hate case law and judicial decisions based on legal precedent.
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Welcome to the Napoleonic Code, my friend...
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@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
But there should be a dividing line. At what point do they become famous, because there is no alternative? Hogg actively courted the spotlight when he was a nobody. Kyle was famous before he even knew how to spell spotlight.
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@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.
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And Sandmann.
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@Ivorythumper said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.
Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.
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He said that Goldberg called him a murderer after the acquittal
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@Doctor-Phibes and @jon-nyc that's true. However, Biden's video, talking about white supremacists and showing Rittenhouse was before his acquittal.
Ultimately, I guess it boils down, as I said, as to whether he is a private citizen or a public figure.
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This kid is going to need bodyguards for the next decade, at least. He is being prevented from going to college by the raving lunatics, and he has zero other options of getting a job. @jon-nyc and others criticize him for embracing a public role, but what other choice does the kid have? Seriously? How else does he survive the next year? 2? 10?
The Brad
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@LuFins-Dad most of that seems either unlikely or heavily exaggerated.
He’d be among friends at hillsdale. Millions actually think he’s a hero. Surly many of those would hire him. Not a big tech firm with a global brand, but local small and medium sized businesses would pick him up.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find a gun shop anywhere in the US that wouldn’t hire him. (Ok my turn to exaggerate)
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@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@LuFins-Dad most of that seems either unlikely or heavily exaggerated.
He’d be among friends at hillsdale. Millions actually think he’s a hero. Surly many of those would hire him. Not a big tech firm with a global brand, but local small and medium sized businesses would pick him up.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find a gun shop anywhere in the US that wouldn’t hire him. (Ok my turn to exaggerate)
All by embracing the status being pushed at him. He can’t go on to be a police officer or a first responder (the path he was on), he can’t choose to go to Michigan or Penn State, he can’t take a job at Starbucks or Old Navy. His options are MUCH more limited in scope and each of the opportunities you listed is based on embracing his role in the current culture war.
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