The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi
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I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.
I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.
People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.
wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 19:48 last edited by@Jolly said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
I've always thought our slander and libel laws should revert back to an earlier and much more narrow definition.
I'm also in favor of not releasing an individual's name who is charged with a crime. That name can be released after trial or plea bargain.
People should be secure in themselves and their possessions. That includes their reputation.
I find the whole "Public Figure" narrative to have been distorted beyond all recognition and it is now abused. I hate case law and judicial decisions based on legal precedent.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 20:43 last edited by
Welcome to the Napoleonic Code, my friend...
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 21:22 last edited by
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
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Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 21:44 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
But there should be a dividing line. At what point do they become famous, because there is no alternative? Hogg actively courted the spotlight when he was a nobody. Kyle was famous before he even knew how to spell spotlight.
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Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 22:57 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 23:10 last edited by
We need an adaptation of The Hunger Games with Rittenhouse, Hogg, and Greta Thunberg.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 23:40 last edited by
And Sandmann.
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@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.
wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 09:37 last edited by@Ivorythumper said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.
Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.
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@Ivorythumper said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Like David Hogg, Kyle has worked hard to parlay his 15m of fame into something more, , pretty actively seeking continued access to the spotlight.
Rittenhouse didn't make himself a public person, Hogg wanted to become a public spokesman.
Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.
wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 11:26 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Perhaps in the beginning but certainly since his trial he’s been trying pretty hard.
True, but the alleged slander occurred BEFORE that.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 11:56 last edited by
You think? I would think calling him a murderer prior to his acquittal wouldn’t meet the threshold of defamation.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 11:57 last edited by
He said that Goldberg called him a murderer after the acquittal
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 12:03 last edited by George K 4 Nov 2022, 12:03
@Doctor-Phibes and @jon-nyc that's true. However, Biden's video, talking about white supremacists and showing Rittenhouse was before his acquittal.
Ultimately, I guess it boils down, as I said, as to whether he is a private citizen or a public figure.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 12:08 last edited by
This kid is going to need bodyguards for the next decade, at least. He is being prevented from going to college by the raving lunatics, and he has zero other options of getting a job. @jon-nyc and others criticize him for embracing a public role, but what other choice does the kid have? Seriously? How else does he survive the next year? 2? 10?
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This kid is going to need bodyguards for the next decade, at least. He is being prevented from going to college by the raving lunatics, and he has zero other options of getting a job. @jon-nyc and others criticize him for embracing a public role, but what other choice does the kid have? Seriously? How else does he survive the next year? 2? 10?
wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 12:47 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Nov 2022, 12:50@LuFins-Dad most of that seems either unlikely or heavily exaggerated.
He’d be among friends at hillsdale. Millions actually think he’s a hero. Surly many of those would hire him. Not a big tech firm with a global brand, but local small and medium sized businesses would pick him up.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find a gun shop anywhere in the US that wouldn’t hire him. (Ok my turn to exaggerate)
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@LuFins-Dad most of that seems either unlikely or heavily exaggerated.
He’d be among friends at hillsdale. Millions actually think he’s a hero. Surly many of those would hire him. Not a big tech firm with a global brand, but local small and medium sized businesses would pick him up.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find a gun shop anywhere in the US that wouldn’t hire him. (Ok my turn to exaggerate)
wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 13:35 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
@LuFins-Dad most of that seems either unlikely or heavily exaggerated.
He’d be among friends at hillsdale. Millions actually think he’s a hero. Surly many of those would hire him. Not a big tech firm with a global brand, but local small and medium sized businesses would pick him up.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find a gun shop anywhere in the US that wouldn’t hire him. (Ok my turn to exaggerate)
All by embracing the status being pushed at him. He can’t go on to be a police officer or a first responder (the path he was on), he can’t choose to go to Michigan or Penn State, he can’t take a job at Starbucks or Old Navy. His options are MUCH more limited in scope and each of the opportunities you listed is based on embracing his role in the current culture war.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 14:41 last edited by
Not really. Any number of businesses that have no cultural valence would hire him. Auto parts? A warehouse? A machine shop? A plumbing supply place? All he needs is a hiring manager who thinks he's the shit. It would be very easy to find.
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Not really. Any number of businesses that have no cultural valence would hire him. Auto parts? A warehouse? A machine shop? A plumbing supply place? All he needs is a hiring manager who thinks he's the shit. It would be very easy to find.
wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 14:43 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Not really. Any number of businesses that have no cultural valence would hire him. Auto parts? A warehouse? A machine shop? A plumbing supply place? All he needs is a hiring manager who thinks he's the shit. It would be very easy to find.
You're showing your cards.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 14:47 last edited by
Raise your hand if you think you could have had your career if attached to a Rittenhouse identity.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 15:12 last edited by
Of course not but I doubt he was on track for it in any event.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 15:16 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The liars will be held accountable, watch out Whoopi:
Of course not but I doubt he was on track for it in any event.
The question is for the whole forum.