The Ukraine war thread
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The Kremlin on Monday neither confirmed nor denied that a visit by the U.S. envoy would take place this week, saying only that it was “always glad to see Mr. Witkoff in Moscow.”
I’m sure they just rejoice when Trump’s trusted hand picked amateur diplomat, Mr. Dimwit, shows up at the door. Not only good for laugh or two afterward but makes for great fodder for domestic lampooning of the USA and the Western democracies in general.
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This is already embarrassing you just know he’ll get rolled again. A megadose of flattery and Putin’s off to the races while Trump tells his buddies “no really guys, I’m serious, the stripper really liked me’.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/europe/putin-trump-meeting-ukraine-russia-intl
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Here in the USA, we see and read more about Ukraine's victories and Russia's losses, yet here is where things currently stand:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/08/09/ukraine-zelensky-trump-russia-meeting/
Ukraine controls only a small toehold in Russia’s western Kursk region. Russia, meanwhile, controls around a fifth of Ukraine’s sovereign territory.
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This is already embarrassing you just know he’ll get rolled again. A megadose of flattery and Putin’s off to the races while Trump tells his buddies “no really guys, I’m serious, the stripper really liked me’.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/europe/putin-trump-meeting-ukraine-russia-intl
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Further proof that Trump really no clue as to what’s been going on:
During the press conference, Trump added that he was "a little bothered" by Zelensky's words regarding "constitutional approval" for land swaps as part of a potential peace agreement.
"He's got approval to go into war and kill everybody, but he needs approval to do a land swap? There'll be some land swapping going on," Trump said.
Does not get it….not at all.
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Putin expected to play the torturous history lecture card tomorrow in an effort to zombify Trump and US officials:
Russian leader Vladimir Putin is likely to lecture US President Donald Trump on the Russian version of Ukrainian history in a bid to justify his invasion, according to Ukraine’s Center for Countering Disinformation on Thursday….
In its Thursday update, the center stated that Putin is preparing so-called “historical materials” for the US president to justify the Kremlin’s position that Ukraine is a so-called “artificial state” that should not exist.
“These are geographical maps that, according to Putin’s plan, are supposed to prove to Trump that Ukraine is an ‘artificial state’ formed at the expense of the territories of other countries,” the update says.
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I think Putin has realized, to borrow a phrase, that Trump has no cards. Or rather none he’s willing to play. I wonder how much Putin can continue to play him before he really gets pissed. There were signs he’d reached his full of it last month, but now Trump seems willing to put up with more.
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Yes; if Trump joins the game it'll be a surprise to me. He seems to have sat back and watch the players continue so far.
Putin is ex KGB, speaks English, and will be a master at handling people.
Trump will have been told repeatedly, perhaps he knows and is happy to wait see a while longer what transpires from the N. Koreans etc -
I seem to recall reading, on more than one occasion, that in 1948 Tito refused a similar invitational summons from Stalin:
An adviser to Volodymyr Zelensky has told BBC News that Ukraine "immediately rejected" Vladimir Putin's suggestion that the two leaders should meet in Moscow.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cz93ve1p952t?post=asset%3A1281df55-06c0-43d5-b23d-d599b7cd956b#post
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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Remember Melnikov.
Which one? You’ll have to jog my memory. Only the famous Constructivist architect comes to my mind at the moment.
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No problem.
In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
…..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.
…..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.
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No problem.
In the meantime, I think this breakdown of the past week’s theatre of the incorrigible is not at all off the mark:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
…..Trump clearly feels that Putin is someone who intimidates him… Putin is someone who knows how to handle Donald Trump,” he added.
…..Duss argues that Trump’s belief in his own “skill as a negotiator” is misplaced when it comes to international security. “He might be a good negotiator when it comes to building a new casino, but he is clearly not a skilled negotiator or diplomat,” Duss said.
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
2-bit thug.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
“Trump is very good when he can bully people,” Duss told the Kyiv Post’s Washington correspondent, adding “and Putin is someone who, in Trump’s words, has cards.”
2-bit thug.
